15 comments

  • tristanj an hour ago

    This user is based in Hong Kong, where Claude is geo-blocked and not available. If you try visiting claude.ai from a Hong Kong IP address, you get an "unavailable in this region" message.

    They are likely accessing Claude via a VPN. Doing model training work over a VPN is a highly suspicious signal, and likely triggers Anthropic's classifiers. It's not surprising that their account got flagged.

    • leobuskin an hour ago

      US/EU here (both, due to traveling), same story with anything related to modifying existing weights or SotA approaches in training/research, it's not a geolocation issue. The safeguards don't check your IP (but pretty soon will check someone's IP [pun intended])

      • alansaber 12 minutes ago

        I've read writeups about a user trust score and i'd be surprised if it wasn't true, there's no way the safeguard is just a cls in isolation

  • gdiamos 21 minutes ago

    Where I draw the line is asking Claude to label training data. I don’t do this.

    I ask it questions about large models like big MoEs all the time. I’ve never had it refuse a question, but I would expect it to refuse sometimes.

    For training data from existing models I just get open models to spill their guts. It’s fine

    In industry we train employees to not reveal proprietary information.

    I think it would be easier to do this for a model than a lot of employees

  • giancarlostoro an hour ago

    I have been using it to train a few BERT models.

    • alansaber 10 minutes ago

      I doubt BERT would trip safeguards

  • WhereIsTheTruth 37 minutes ago

    US Security Chip act next, your GPU will soon enforce these restrictions too

    • skeledrew 3 minutes ago

      Nice. Push more people to use Chinese chips.

  • nubinetwork an hour ago

    Kindof old news, they've been doing this for months...

    • pkoird an hour ago

      Better block than falsify information. Last I heard they were deliberately botching it whenever someone asked semi-advanced questions on model training.

      • jbellis 3 minutes ago

        They walked that part back within days. Still made me permanently leery off relying on anthropic for anything important.

      • dominotw an hour ago

        so models can reveal "advanced" model building secrets ? how?

        How is it a secret if everyone has a model that is exactly like the other. Surely there are no secrets

        • nostrebored 17 minutes ago

          I don’t think it is revelation, it feels like active incompetence. You can lay out every decision and watch Claude/OpenAI actively fuck up in inexplicable ways.

        • impossiblefork 27 minutes ago

          It could be simple training tips that are obvious, but which any particular builder might miss.

        • georgemcbay an hour ago

          > Surely there are no secrets

          Not yet, especially not with all of the incestuous cross-hiring that all the labs do.

          But perhaps the various L. Bob Rife variants running these labs are using their advanced unreleased models to work on their own Snow Crashes.