Turning a solar power system into its own backup

(arstechnica.com)

39 points | by PaulHoule a day ago ago

12 comments

  • bob1029 5 hours ago

    We can break the 5500K temperature limit with passive elements and some clever engineering.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Solar-pumped_laser

    https://ieeexplore.ieee.org/document/1553831

  • michaelscott 6 hours ago

    Maybe I missed it somewhere in the write up but in what way is the solar system its own backup? It seemed like the battery was just subbed for a combustion system using stored heat?

    • mattmaroon 3 hours ago

      In the way that that will make you click the link.

    • ThrowawayTestr 5 hours ago

      It's a weird way to phrase it. It's a solar generator that shares it's turbines with a conventional generator.

      • conorcleary 3 hours ago

        I was picturing a solar-charged battery running a light above the panel overnight

  • ulkhf 5 hours ago

    How is this different from Ivanpah?

    • cyberax 3 hours ago

      I guess that they're using multiple smaller towers? This does reduce the complexity of the tracking and alignment systems.

  • downrightmike 6 hours ago

    REAL TLDR: Just Slap some gas generators onto the bad design and it'll work this time(tm)

  • cowfire 7 hours ago

    TLDR: it's a concentrated solar plant (field of mirrors shine light on a tower to boil water) with a backup system that boils the water by burning stuff.

    • ozyschmozy 6 hours ago

      If I understand the article correctly, there is no boiling water, it uses hot air only. It says the concentrated solar generates air up to nearly 1000 degrees, and that's used to heat up compressed air to run through a turbine, with the eziting air at around 250 degrees. Burning fuel would replace the initial source of hot air. Burning fossil fuels to get hot air and then dumping 250 degree air to the environment doesn't seem very efficient, but the article doesn't mention anything about the efficiency of the process with either source.

      Does say the hot air at the end can be used for industrial processes, so it might not be completely lost

    • bombcar 3 hours ago

      Advanced new power generation technique!

      Look inside, it’s boiling water to spin turbines.

    • fhdkweig 6 hours ago

      "The first installation will be"

      It also hasn't been built yet. Let me know when they have one working prototype. Until then, it is just a concept on a drawing board.