Something being potentially extremely dangerous isn't super notable. We sell cars to everyone, and that's ~ a device for accelerating a ton or more of metal to potentially eye watering speeds. Propane tanks are already approximately a crappy bomb.
I've not seen anything so far that's remarkably more dangerous than a laundry list of commonly purchased items. Most of what I hear is either some sort of far fetched "the teenagers are going to be bio-engineering designer strains of polio", or some vague fears that the AI will become sentient and kill us all that vaguely reminds me of when the Manhattan Project thought they might cause earth's entire atmosphere to enter runaway fission.
I'm also distrustful because virtually all the experts stand to benefit from convincing us unregulated AI is dangerous. Namely, it's a compelling reason to ban Chinese and open weight models that are eating into their margins. It doesn't mean they're wrong, but it does mean that they'll need to substantiate their claims. I'm not trusting them at face value.
No. First of all, the expert consensus you're alluding to is a much narrower slice than you're making it sound. Secondly, it also isn't neutral rederivation, either. What you're mostly looking at is one opinion which is being passed around, based on a mix of hypotheticals and folklore.
This is a strawman attack, aside from simply being an inaccurate claim. The notion that AI poses no danger and all claims to the contrary are IPO manipulations requires extensive conspiratorial thinking.
You.. want to align an entity that by definition is more intelligent than an average human by a margin that is already difficult to comprehend. There is nothing solve here -- the question that you should ask is how that super intelligence will see a human race. That is it.
Well duh. Milk can kill you, directly. Things you put in your body of course must have much higher regulation and safety concerns than computer programs that generate text and images (which are then, maybe, acted upon by humans without reviewing their truth).
These megacorps are doing their best to make their offerings sound scary, because scary == capable in marketing terms, and scary allows them to set up a regulatory moat preventing anyone from competing with them.
Funny how it's always these mega corporations who own a piece of the AI pie who are the loudest about regulating it.
They are all scrambling to build a regulatory moat for themselves.
Yes, I totally agree. I find it funny.
It is almost as if they had something to gain from it:D
Operating systems are less regulated than milk, which is why they blue screen without consequences. Let's not entirely lose the plot here.
You don’t see how or why AI systems could be extremely dangerous, despite literally all experts converging towards a consensus that they are?
Something being potentially extremely dangerous isn't super notable. We sell cars to everyone, and that's ~ a device for accelerating a ton or more of metal to potentially eye watering speeds. Propane tanks are already approximately a crappy bomb.
I've not seen anything so far that's remarkably more dangerous than a laundry list of commonly purchased items. Most of what I hear is either some sort of far fetched "the teenagers are going to be bio-engineering designer strains of polio", or some vague fears that the AI will become sentient and kill us all that vaguely reminds me of when the Manhattan Project thought they might cause earth's entire atmosphere to enter runaway fission.
I'm also distrustful because virtually all the experts stand to benefit from convincing us unregulated AI is dangerous. Namely, it's a compelling reason to ban Chinese and open weight models that are eating into their margins. It doesn't mean they're wrong, but it does mean that they'll need to substantiate their claims. I'm not trusting them at face value.
So, something with the potential to kill all humans isn’t notable to you?
What does Geoff Hinton have to gain?
This is a conspiracy theory FYI.
No. First of all, the expert consensus you're alluding to is a much narrower slice than you're making it sound. Secondly, it also isn't neutral rederivation, either. What you're mostly looking at is one opinion which is being passed around, based on a mix of hypotheticals and folklore.
This is a strawman attack, aside from simply being an inaccurate claim. The notion that AI poses no danger and all claims to the contrary are IPO manipulations requires extensive conspiratorial thinking.
the danger posed by AI is the same posed by nuclear weapons: it's the people, stupid.
Looking forward to your thesis where you’ve solved perpetual superintelligence alignment.
You.. want to align an entity that by definition is more intelligent than an average human by a margin that is already difficult to comprehend. There is nothing solve here -- the question that you should ask is how that super intelligence will see a human race. That is it.
If you believe the propaganda that AI will kill everyone, you need to step away from the marketing.
Is Nobel laureate Geoff Hinton marketing?
I don’t put AI in my body. Also milk is almost certainly over regulated.
Overregulated? Read what happened in the past and think again, for example https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Swill_milk_scandal
Just because something may be over regulated does not mean that zero regulation is needed.
Whst exactly is overregulated with milk in the US?
Alarming how casual you all are about regulating and pacing the most risky technology ever developed.
Says the major company who is furthest behind in AI right now…
Leading company calls for regulation: "They just want to build their moat." (inexplicably)
Trailing company calls for regulation: "They just want time to catch up."
Well duh. Milk can kill you, directly. Things you put in your body of course must have much higher regulation and safety concerns than computer programs that generate text and images (which are then, maybe, acted upon by humans without reviewing their truth).
These megacorps are doing their best to make their offerings sound scary, because scary == capable in marketing terms, and scary allows them to set up a regulatory moat preventing anyone from competing with them.