8 comments

  • sgarland 5 hours ago

    It is hilarious to me when companies act like they've made some huge discovery that's been well-known to anyone working in DBs for the past decade, if not more.

    JSON is slow as hell, both for serdes, and especially querying it. Use it sparingly, if at all. Normalization is not that hard, and it's trivial now with LLMs. Tell Claude you want your schema in BCNF, or 5NF if you're feeling froggy. Denormalize if and only if you have performance issues.

    • weird-eye-issue an hour ago

      If you have proper indexes into the JSON columns I wonder what the performance difference is, if any, for Postgres

    • guites 4 hours ago

      The point they make is that user data is dynamic, meaning you can't just blindly normalize every json attribute into its own column. The challenge is determining which attributes deserve "shredding" and doing it automatically iiuc

    • Neywiny 4 hours ago

      Not even companies. I've seen this with colleagues. They wanted JSON parsing in a moderately embedded device. No thank you. Parse it elsewhere, give me the binary result

    • lofaszvanitt an hour ago

      Everyone needs their aha moment :}.

  • zX41ZdbW an hour ago

    This is quite an old technique. In ClickHouse, it appeared before it was named "shredding": https://github.com/ClickHouse/ClickHouse/issues/54864

  • japgolly 3 hours ago

    > Rather than storing all attributes in a single JSON column, we automatically extract the most frequently accessed attributes into separate, strongly typed columns.

    I'm glad they made the discovery but this is DB 101

  • sans_souse 6 hours ago

    Let's just revert back 30 years and make the entire www plain text. What could possibly go wrong?