Good to see Dat still alive, but without solve for mobile NAT traversal and persistent seed incentives, these p2p protocols never escape hobbyist tier.
I'm pleased to see DAT survived in some way the niche rivalry with IPFS, but let the people at Iroh their website LLM endpoint is down, https://www.iroh.computer/blog/what-is-derp
> "The DERP Protocol in Iroh"
> "Explain the original DERP protocol by Tailscale, focusing on its functionality and limitations. Discuss how Iroh has adapted and enhanced the DERP protocol, emphasizing the use of DERP URLs instead of regions."
There's no LLM endpoint :) These prompts were meant for humans to fill in :P (this post was from 2024)
That said, this was an old blog post that never actually got finished, so we've taken it offline and replaced it with a redirect to our relay docs page.
Falling back to DERP relays means trusting and funding centralized relay boxes. That solves connectivity by conceding peer-to-peer. You end up with client-server architecture plus extra cryptographic tax.
Good to see Dat still alive, but without solve for mobile NAT traversal and persistent seed incentives, these p2p protocols never escape hobbyist tier.
nat traversal more or less solved:
https://docs.iroh.computer/concepts/nat-traversal
https://www.iroh.computer/blog/what-is-derp
https://ark-builders.medium.com/the-deceptive-complexity-of-...
projects using iroh:
https://github.com/muhamadjawdatsalemalakoum/kith
https://delta.chat/
https://github.com/fishfolk/bones/
I'm pleased to see DAT survived in some way the niche rivalry with IPFS, but let the people at Iroh their website LLM endpoint is down, https://www.iroh.computer/blog/what-is-derp
> "The DERP Protocol in Iroh"
> "Explain the original DERP protocol by Tailscale, focusing on its functionality and limitations. Discuss how Iroh has adapted and enhanced the DERP protocol, emphasizing the use of DERP URLs instead of regions."
and so on for the rest of their FAQ page
PS: Is keet.io a reincarnation of Cabal chat (https://cabal.chat/)?
There's no LLM endpoint :) These prompts were meant for humans to fill in :P (this post was from 2024)
That said, this was an old blog post that never actually got finished, so we've taken it offline and replaced it with a redirect to our relay docs page.
Falling back to DERP relays means trusting and funding centralized relay boxes. That solves connectivity by conceding peer-to-peer. You end up with client-server architecture plus extra cryptographic tax.
I think DAT is mostly dead, even the Beaker browser is no longer around I think?
Anyways, new projects like Keet.io keep the p2p dream alive, or at least, give it a zombie-like undead experience.