64 comments

  • frio 12 hours ago

    What does this offer over, say, an Innioasis https://www.innioasis.com/products/y2? What Bluetooth codecs does it support; will I be able to use LDAC/LDHC/AAC/AptX HD/etc.? Is "Sudo OS" something I can hack and play with?

    • 9999gold 11 hours ago

      It says it supports "streaming" but it is unclear if it will support streaming apps like Spotify/Apple Music or their own music streaming service.

  • nticompass 13 hours ago

    Reminds me of the Tangara mp3 player: https://cooltech.zone/tangara/

    My friend got a Tangara from their "Kickstarter" and I think it's pretty cool. Plus it's open source and you can just make your own.

    • summermusic 11 hours ago

      +1 for Tangara. It's kind of underpowered and crashes sometimes when doing too much at once, and I wish the scroll wheel felt a bit better, but hey it's all open source and I made some mods (printed a case, added some resistors to lower the noise floor).

    • bpye 11 hours ago

      I do like my Tangara, though I use an ancient Sansa Clip more just because it's so much smaller.

    • frio 11 hours ago

      I'd love a Tangara, it's a pity they can't be ordered any more.

  • coldtea 11 hours ago

    Shipping Q4 2027? Let me know then. Even if it ships on time, that's like a year ahead, and who knows what else will be available by the time (it's not like there's not a thriving niche mp3 player market).

    • sippingabonedry 11 hours ago

      While you're saving that $250 over the next year, feel free to indulge on any of the dozens of equivalent products already on the market at the $35 price point.

      • coldtea 10 hours ago

        I know of them, but I don't necessarily want to save. I don't like the sub-$50 ones I've seen (tons of them on Alibaba, Temu, Amazon and various online stores). Already have a ~ $150 mp3 player.

        I'd be interested in a $250 one or even a $400 one if it had good features. 64GB storage (SD extention is cool, but built-in should be way higher) and 20 hours battery ain't that. No mention of the DAC and headphone specs are a joke. 3.5mm? For $250 I want a 1/4-inch jack for hi-fi headphones as well...

      • thejazzman 11 hours ago

        I recommend an iPod classic with a 512GB SD card :D

        • beAbU 39 minutes ago

          You mean CF card? I upgraded my iPod classic by pulling out the old 1GB hard drive and replacing it with a 64GB CF card. The pinout is the same, and it works flawlessly.

          I felt like a real hacker when I did it!

    • shosko 11 hours ago

      This feels like a new company trying to capitalize on the trend and looking to fill a minimum order.

  • rock_artist 11 hours ago

    Maybe it’s me being old but I don’t understand why I’d want this device for 249$.

    I know some younger gens are looking for phoneless experiences, but for that price you can find old devices and simply recycle their usage. There are enough roms aimed and making a “dumb” mp3 player and include 3.5” and decent audio.

    So I wonder if I miss something. The fomo here is messing with me.

    • poisonborz 11 hours ago

      Even more, chinese sites are chuck full of such players for a fraction of the price in all dimensions, on/offline, tactile or touch, with quality DACs.

      • Levitating 6 minutes ago

        I've tried such devices for ~40 euro but found the quality lacking

    • xandrius 11 hours ago

      Yep, just get some older mp3 players and done. No need dumb touch screens.

    • moralestapia 11 hours ago

      Maybe it's me being old but I've seen the <who would buy this thing> argument ad nauseaum.

      I'm happy about this product, I was just looking for something like this not long ago.

      There's market for everything. Accept that and move on, particularly when you have no horse on the race.

      • coldtea 10 hours ago

        >I'm happy about this product, I was just looking for something like this not long ago.

        There is a market for such products, but not for this one, which is a particularly bad implementation, vaporware for Q4 2027 release, and with bad specs for the price.

        Tons of such mp3 players, with touchscreens, and even iPod like wheels, on online stores. Go get one.

  • nxc18 12 hours ago

    You can also just buy an iPod in 2026, they are still well supported on Mac and PC. You can get them with new batteries quite cheaply. You can even get 30-pin Bluetooth adapters for them.

    • emigre 11 hours ago

      The iPod aren’t supported anymore, they require iTunes which is no longer available on macOS. And iTunes is also not available for Linux.

      • bookstore-romeo 11 hours ago

        you can still sync music to iPods using the music app/the finder on mac [0]. there’s a similar thing for windows as well [1]. on linux, i know the clementine music player supports iPod sync [2]. all these options let you use the original firmware!

        0: https://support.apple.com/en-gb/guide/mac-help/mchlde9a31f1/...

        1: https://support.apple.com/en-ca/guide/devices-windows/mchlbf...

        2: https://github.com/clementine-player/Clementine/wiki/Portabl...

        • emigre 9 hours ago

          Well, the support link says iPod Touch, that’s not all iPods. I was thinking about older models to be honest.

          I’ve been told in another comment that they still sync, via Finder. I have had issues with that, but it’s probably okay from what other comments say.

          I’ve done an online search and I see other people that have had technical issues syncing with Finder. I guess it depends on the macOS version, iPod model… who knows.

          I’ve used Clementine but found it to be clunky and unreliable. Again, just my personal experience with it.

          • mingus88 9 hours ago

            Classic iPods work the same way

      • absolute8606 11 hours ago

        It is actually still supported directly Finder on macOS. Or, even better, just putting Rockbox on them and copying files over directly, and that’s well supported in Linux.

        Pricing on the used market is maybe a bit high compared to some of the other options out there but the hardware still feels great and there’s massive aftermarket support so there are still benefits to an iPod.

        • emigre 9 hours ago

          To be honest I like the classic UI and would not want to use Rockbox… I have struggled trying to use it with Linux. There are ways, in theory, but actually was a pain in practice. I’ve been told Finder works fine, if that’s the case then that’s great.

      • reaperducer 11 hours ago

        The iPod aren’t supported anymore, they require iTunes which is no longer available on macOS.

        Absolutely false. Why would you even post that?

        iPods are 100% supported on macOS, and its Music program.

        I have five Shuffles, and an iPod Video, and I use at least one of them almost every day, and sync them with my Macs monthly.

        • emigre 10 hours ago

          It’s true that after iTunes ceased to exist it was then possible to sync them with the Music app and Finder, I was wrong to say that. I meant to say that Apple no longer offers support for the device.

          I have had issues syncing with Finder on a particular model. I assumed these models no longer worked with the OS. Happy to hear that they do. Maybe it was the OS version, or the model. I should try again.

  • robin_reala 11 hours ago

    Presumably Apple has a patent on the clickwheel? But maybe that just expired given the first iPod is now 25 years old.

  • pwthornton 12 hours ago

    It doesn't seem to list what it supports. How do I get music on here? What kind of codecs are supported?

    • fg137 11 hours ago

      This thing reads like a Kickstarter.

      • coldtea 10 hours ago

        Reads like an AI vibe slop version of a Kickstarter.

  • zylent 11 hours ago

    I try not to be negative, but the name is bad. Literally any other name. sudo os?!?

    • emigre 9 hours ago

      Oh gosh, “sudo”… because if you use it you are a “super user”?… Not a great name.

  • rsync 12 hours ago

    I use and maintain an "ipod" in the form of an old pixel 3 with 128 GB of memory that has no SIM card and no software installed except for VLC.

    It stays in airplane mode. It has a real headphone jack.

  • comrade1234 11 hours ago

    I still have an iPod in my car and I still have a big collection of music but I've stopped collecting music. I haven't bought/downloaded anything in years because there is so much good streaming out there. I mostly switch between nts.live 1 and 2, dublab, and dublab Germany. When there's something annoying on one channel there is almost always something good on another.

  • sajithdilshan 11 hours ago

    Looks like a scam. You have to pay 50$ to reserve and ships in Q4 2027.

    By then most of people would forget they even paid for this and also you won’t be able to dispute the 50$ with your payment provider because the dispute window has passed.

  • shosko 11 hours ago

    This feels like a new company collecting orders for a minimum run. I wish them luck. Those rivets on the back are a deal breaker for me.

  • meerita 11 hours ago

    One the picture depicts a really fat device. Feels like you will have a brick in your hand.

    • zokier 11 hours ago

      its probably just ai slop picture. the specs list thickness as 8.5mm, which is less than e.g. iphone 4s.

  • Aboutplants 11 hours ago

    Just use an old iPhone as your music player. You probably have one in a drawer somewhere

    • wpearse 11 hours ago

      Jokes: I have one in my pocket right now!

  • maxglute 10 hours ago

    Looks massive and 20hours of battery life. Does 3.5 even have a dac?

    • mingus88 8 hours ago

      It would have to if it makes (analog) sound waves from (digital) files

  • uyui 11 hours ago

    There already is Shanling Q2 which looks like iPod, but also has lossless.

  • jerrygenser 12 hours ago

    ipod of 2026 ships q4 2027.. is that a typo on the shipping date?

  • mococa 11 hours ago

    Nice, I was just searching for something like that!

  • uyui 11 hours ago

    THere's already a player that looks like classic iPod and even supports loseless playback out this year, Shanling Q2.

  • chinathrow 12 hours ago

    This is all nice but, aren't there patents on some of the features visible?

    • saulpw 11 hours ago

      Why are you spending any of your precious energy defending expired patents for a trillion-dollar corporation?

      • sandcat_ 11 hours ago

        They’re probably questioning the viability of a product that’s accepting preorders?

      • petcat 11 hours ago

        Because before I click the "Reserve" button I would like to know if this company has any hope in hell to actually ship a device before they are sued into oblivion. I don't like wasting money.

    • mschuster91 11 hours ago

      The original iPod came out in 2001. Any patents on that have hopefully expired at least half a decade ago if not earlier.

  • chollida1 11 hours ago

    I though $50 seems like a fair price for what you'd get. And then I saw it was only a deposit. A retail price of $250 seems way over the mark for what it is.

    Who would be the market for this product?

    Its expensive so its up market, but all of those buyers would already have phones and would be unlikely to bring another device just to have music that their phone is already exceptionally good at providing.

    it's unlikely to be runners or bikers or other endurance athletes as they'll already have their phone or if they use a watch have music on their watch so they don't have to bring a phone.

    Phones already do a great job of offline with downloaded music and movies so that doesn't seem like the right crowd.

    Most kids get a hand me down phone with no cellular to start with from their parents so that doesn't seem like a good fit.

    now i feel like I'm writing the hacker news dropbox review where i say its use case is already easy to do and the product will go nowhere;)

    But seriously, who would be the target here?

  • madaxe_again 11 hours ago

    If only it would run off a single AA battery.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rio_PMP300

  • functionmouse 13 hours ago

    What DAC/amplification circuitry does it use? Does it support bit perfect playback the same way my iPod/sansa clip/computer do? Or is everything crushed to 48khz like a smartphone?

    Why does it appear to be riveted together? Wouldn't Phillips screws or a snap together design (guitar pick to open) be more practical?

    Is "Sudo OS" a euphemism for "Android but extra locked down", the same way Rabbit R1 was?

    • 7bbfea 12 hours ago

      Asking the important questions. At its core it's a DAP. If it offers nothing better than a smartphone, I don't see why I need another piece of glued together junk that could go unsupported anytime just for whatever sentimental value iPod has. Not to mention 64 GB is nothing if you're listening to lossless.

      • DaveSchmindel 12 hours ago

        ^^^ This. I would urge anyone who got tangentially excited about this whole thread to:

        1. head to eBay and search for used iPod Classics

        2. give Rockbox some love

      • gbalint 11 hours ago

        It has a microsd slot, so I don't think the 64 GB limitation is that bad.

    • llm_nerd 11 hours ago

      I suspect they're all just renderings and they didn't want to commit to a drive type.

      As to the being "crushed" to 48Khz, there is zero chance you can tell the difference.

      https://xiph.org/video/vid2.shtml

  • MarvinYork 11 hours ago

    At first, I read “Suno” and thought it was a music player that lets you listen to music generated just for you. “Play me some music about a breakup between two sailors,” and there you go — the perfect album for the occasion.