Israeli Settlers Can Get Away with Murder [video]

(youtube.com)

12 points | by computerex 7 hours ago ago

25 comments

  • computerex 4 hours ago

    Why is this flagged? It’s information about what is happening in Palestine. Why is information flagged? Isn’t curiosity and information sharing a principle on which hackers stand?

    Dang, or someone can explain why this is flagged?

    • magicalhippo 3 hours ago

      It is flagged because enough users clicked on the "flag" link/action. Users tend to do that for stories they don't feel belong here, which especially happens with politically loaded non-tech stories, as they are listed as off-topic in the guidelines[1]:

      Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.

      Moderators sometimes unflag stories, if they feel the discussion is genuine.

      [1]: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

    • andsoitis 2 hours ago

      > Why is this flagged?

      The people have voted.

  • computerex 7 hours ago

    Excellent video by "Seal On Tour" that shows Israeli terrorists that are supported by the Israeli "defense" force.

    • andsoitis 7 hours ago

      This is not the place.

      • computerex 4 hours ago

        Why? Care to elaborate ?

      • verdverm 6 hours ago

        Israel crimes are oft discussed on HN and have staying power on the frontpage

        Top "israel" posts from the last year, many with over 1000 karma

        https://hn.algolia.com/?dateRange=pastYear&page=0&prefix=tru...

        • andsoitis 6 hours ago

          Presence or occasional popularity are not evidence of desirability.

          • computerex 4 hours ago

            What is then evidence of desirability? Whatever andsoitis considers desirable?

            Who the heck are you exactly?

        • uejfiweun 6 hours ago

          Well, I wish they weren't, because this has literally nothing to do with tech and hacking.

          • computerex 4 hours ago

            Information. Use search function there are many things posted here that have nothing to do with tech or hacking.

          • verdverm 6 hours ago

            HN is not just tech and hacking though

            some people dislike this, others hold the opposite opinion

            From the guidelines

            > On-Topic: Anything that good hackers would find interesting. That includes more than hacking and startups. If you had to reduce it to a sentence, the answer might be: anything that gratifies one's intellectual curiosity.

            > Off-Topic: Most stories about politics, or crime, or sports, or celebrities, unless they're evidence of some interesting new phenomenon. If they'd cover it on TV news, it's probably off-topic.

            An interesting example is the results of the US presidential election often sitting at the #1 spot for a while

            • andsoitis 6 hours ago

              And you think this story falls into which category: on- or off-topic?

              • verdverm 6 hours ago

                I would say that on the ground video accounts are more interesting than mainstream media content for this topic in our post-truth world

                many submissions span both and the HN community is on average pretty good about filtering wheat from chaff

                • andsoitis 5 hours ago

                  The post is not generating interesting discussion. It isn't expanding minds. It doesn't spark curiosity.

                  • computerex 4 hours ago

                    Did you even watch the video ? Are you not infuriated by the actions of Israeli settler terrorists?

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                  • verdverm 5 hours ago

                    I'd counter that it led to a meta discussion about HN, which is good from time to time, to see how each other think about the content policies here, over assuming everyone thinks the same about it only being tech and tangential

                    if you find content inappropriate for HN, flag it, hide it, and move on

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        • EA-3167 5 hours ago

          You can go literally any place online to preach this, why is HN trying to carve out something that isn't the same slop you see everywhere else so objectionable? It's the internet, you aren't the only one with a cause, and once that ball gets rolling nothing is ultimately left in its path except purity tests and fights without any intellectual dimension to them.

          • verdverm 4 hours ago

            HNers have been saying the same thing you just did for more than a decade. The negative feedback loop has yet to metastasize

            • EA-3167 4 hours ago

              Almost as though there’s a prevailing culture opposed to it and backed up by stringent moderation. Think of it as an immune system, you let it go and then body is overwhelmed.

              • verdverm 4 hours ago

                ah, we doing the moderation conspiracy theory too?

                I have yet to see any credible evidence or analysis for this in more than 15 years on HN, just anecdotes and occasional instances where moderation shows its a hard and imperfect job

                • EA-3167 4 hours ago

                  I’m giving credit where it’s due, I’m here because the mods are so good at what they do despite the influx of AI posts and the rest.

                  You misread what I said.

                  • verdverm 3 hours ago

                    the use of "it" leaves a lot of ambiguity

                    "stringent moderation" has certain connotations often accompanying the moderation conspiracy theorists comments here

                    forgive me for interpreting this way based on the above and in the context of your broader comment history