Adversarial Fashion Makes a Statement on AI Panopticon

(spectrum.ieee.org)

24 points | by rbanffy 2 hours ago ago

13 comments

  • arjie 21 minutes ago

    Face detection on the example images immediately focused on the right part and after that recognition becomes much easier when you crop out the rest. Not convinced. It’s a cool gimmick though. I like the MARPATish look of the black and white one.

    The most effective socially acceptable mechanism is a burqa or COVID mask or motorcycle helmet sock.

    • rusk 5 minutes ago

      As Phil Zimmerman might opine, it’s not so much about defying every attack, it’s moreso about making it more difficult en masse by increasing the unit cost. Though perhaps in the 90s surveillance tech wasn’t quite scaling as quickly as it is now.

  • focusedone an hour ago

    I hope designs like this become easier to purchase soon. It'd be fun to experiment with cameras I've got access to and I'd totally wear it out places on the weekend.

    Totally get that it's a cat-and-mouse thing, but I don't mind making more work for the people trying to force this on us all.

    • layer8 3 minutes ago

      At some point there might be a DMCA-like law that makes such adversarial clothing illegal.

  • Xmd5a 41 minutes ago

    > statement logged. standing by.

  • andai an hour ago

    Excellent, this will allow me to disappear completely!

  • measurablefunc 20 minutes ago

    There is a lot irony in using AI to generate adversarial examples for AI object segmentation.

  • threethirtytwo 38 minutes ago

    Nah these designs can never proliferate very far because you can EASILY train AI to recognize the difference between these patterns and an actual face.

    You need to make a hoodie covered with actual size faces. That will fool the AI and will be harder to account for. Use AI itself to generate these faces so every hoodie has unique faces. Then imagine everyone in a crowd wearing this.

    Boom. THAT will fool AI for long time. But let's not fool ourselves... AI can eventually even be trained to recognize this. But it buys us a bit more time before the end.

    • drcongo 33 minutes ago
    • exo762 24 minutes ago

      Gait analysis - good luck faking your gait.

      What we need is a legislative solution to street surveillance proliferation. Germans figured that one out, rest of the world is capable of doing it too.

      • rusk a few seconds ago

        You need a system that does gait analysis, which requires upgrades across the board. All those sunk costs on pervasive facial recon systems. Sucks teeth.

      • fhdkweig 23 minutes ago

        A pebble in one shoe will change your gait.

      • nickthegreek 16 minutes ago

        Nothing a dress that touches that ground cant help obscure.