I don't personally use those apps so I'm not sure, but if they're open source I'm confident you could easily update them to work with my site. In case it's useful, here's the source code https://github.com/leiDnedyA/hn-without-ai
Huh, perhaps there is a project to be done to consume the HN firehose and serve it AT Proto style from the firehose. HN mobile clients can then pick the feed they want. AI? No AI? Politics? No politics? Frameworks? No frameworks? Choose your own HN post feed adventure. Read replica esq consumption, writes (comments, posts, votes) go to the primary data store (HN).
Instead of filtering keywords this ranks the content using Pangram. But it's also pretty effective at filtering content about AI. Turns out that a lot of LLM tooling projects have LLM written project descriptions/blog posts.
It's amazing to see how many of the "AI hurts my brain" posts are apparently written by an LLM.
Nice! I was considering doing this but the Pangram API is very expensive. Then I considered training my own model and I fortunately stopped at the edge of that rabbit hole.
I quite like this, particularly that the filter is just a preset! Will be back.
Minor UI feedback - when navigating comments (and maybe other stuff) with the keyboard, the actual focus change is blocked behind some automated scroll behavior, and the effect is that someone quickly hitting keybinds will collapse the wrong thread. Would suggest making the focus change happen concurrently.
There is also the hide button under every post, which I’ve started using generously. It only takes a few seconds to clean up the front page to your taste
I'm mixed on that. Definitely topics I hide when I think people can't discuss them like adults, but sometimes even bad stories have some great discussions in them.
Just a few high level points about how this works. It works in multiple stages:
1. I apply a domain and keyword filter to the feed
2. The content of the remaining articles are run twice daily through a Modern Bert-based classifier fine-tuned to detect AI-related content (~8000 training examples)[0].
It also filters out Github repos that contain AI authorship. My backend scans:
- Commit messages for agent attribution
- The contributor graph for agents
- Repo files for instructions/configs
0: The original workflow for this was a little different. For the better part of the past year, I had an AI agent detect AI-related stories and raise ~20 stories to me to make a judgement call on. After a while, a workflow like this just doesn't make sense when small models can do it equally as well. The training data is based on the machine and my labeling.
People were actually complaining specifically about OpenAI/Anthropic glazing and the countless influencer comments and posts here every hour.
And it's getting twisted into "People want HN without AI."
But that was never the case. I mean some surely do. But the blow-up this morning was specific to Anthropic ads to the point there's basically no information on this website that isn't related to Anthropic or OpenAI.
If it was announced some rando kid made a LLM in PHP or something, sure share it! If it was announced someone actually made something cool with AI (lol) then share it!
But Claude 24/7 aint it. It's at least extremely boring!
For Hacker News without AI, can I suggest the domain of news.ycombntor.com ?
Behold, the power of suggestion: https://news.ycombntor.com
I regret that I had but one upvote to give to this comment. Well played!
If you prefer something closer to the original layout: https://www.unslop.news/
Thank you for sharing my site :)
Do you know if there is a way of pointing any of the hackernews phone apps to your site instead of the official one?
I don't personally use those apps so I'm not sure, but if they're open source I'm confident you could easily update them to work with my site. In case it's useful, here's the source code https://github.com/leiDnedyA/hn-without-ai
Huh, perhaps there is a project to be done to consume the HN firehose and serve it AT Proto style from the firehose. HN mobile clients can then pick the feed they want. AI? No AI? Politics? No politics? Frameworks? No frameworks? Choose your own HN post feed adventure. Read replica esq consumption, writes (comments, posts, votes) go to the primary data store (HN).
Thank you for basically only filtering and not changing the style. :)
Good idea but needs a stronger filter
First post shown right now is https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49659245 which is essentially an ad for an AI company. So I guess this will need further fine tuning.
Here's how mine looks using my method:
https://imgur.com/a/P1qMIok
9 out of 30 posts have been removed.
Steps:
Install uBlock Origin Lite. Then create a custom filter:
Any improvements to above filter are welcome.Maybe use AI to filter the posts? :)
Here is an approach to filtering LLM written content: https://hnslop.nilsherzig.com/
Instead of filtering keywords this ranks the content using Pangram. But it's also pretty effective at filtering content about AI. Turns out that a lot of LLM tooling projects have LLM written project descriptions/blog posts.
It's amazing to see how many of the "AI hurts my brain" posts are apparently written by an LLM.
Nice! I was considering doing this but the Pangram API is very expensive. Then I considered training my own model and I fortunately stopped at the edge of that rabbit hole.
nvm sorry, just read the "how this works" comment from OP. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49660301
OPs solution does more than keyword filtering. But its still about filtering out "content about ai" not filtering out "ai written content".
This is like; during a war, when you just want to read the news without anything about the war :D
“Keep Calm and Carry On”?
TIL it was rare in the actual wartime (WWII) and only became popular in 2000: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Keep_Calm_and_Carry_On
Hacker News, without AI needs to be a plugin for Firefox - I don´t really want to use two pages at the same time.
If a Userscript solution is fine for you, see my recent comments :)
This one actually works: https://elijahpotter.dev/hnsansai
I see like ten stories on this page.
count yourself lucky, tomorrow it will be 9
i can't tell if the slop ui or the slop posts are worse
I quite like this, particularly that the filter is just a preset! Will be back.
Minor UI feedback - when navigating comments (and maybe other stuff) with the keyboard, the actual focus change is blocked behind some automated scroll behavior, and the effect is that someone quickly hitting keybinds will collapse the wrong thread. Would suggest making the focus change happen concurrently.
You need to search deeper!
Looking at the iPod 6G QEMU emulation story:
> "With the help of Claude Code, I was able to create code to extract it using emCORE."
There is also the hide button under every post, which I’ve started using generously. It only takes a few seconds to clean up the front page to your taste
I'm mixed on that. Definitely topics I hide when I think people can't discuss them like adults, but sometimes even bad stories have some great discussions in them.
I have a cron job that logs in and hides stuff based on a big list of keywords and domains I'm not interested in.
nice. this can also easily automate with ai so doubly useful
Is it still hacker news if you manipulate the listing based on your own bias?
I suppose it depends on what point of view we answer from. It is very hacker-newsery to make something like this
Top story: huggingface
Top article is about AI eliminating jobs, nice attempt tho
Where?
First one atm is about HuggingFace.
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I'm guessing this is a cloudflare issue? Try again, I turned bot protection off. The site was getting flooded by requests from bot scrapers.
still prefer the simplicity of a reverse river, with a focus on votes and comments https://hckrnews.com/
its incredibly easy to immediately tell when something was posted, and how popular it was. there s no automagic rearranging or movement.
similar to https://techmeme.com/river
Open up the settings bar at the top and set the story layout to "hckr". That layout is directly inspired by hckrnews.com.
Just a few high level points about how this works. It works in multiple stages:
It also filters out Github repos that contain AI authorship. My backend scans: RSS feed here: https://hcker.news/feeds/atom?period=day&ai=exclude0: The original workflow for this was a little different. For the better part of the past year, I had an AI agent detect AI-related stories and raise ~20 stories to me to make a judgement call on. After a while, a workflow like this just doesn't make sense when small models can do it equally as well. The training data is based on the machine and my labeling.
Funny how it uses AI
Ethical, grass-fed AI!
I like AI just hate Claude and Anslopic ads 24/7
This feels like trying to do "Hacker News, without 'the Internet.'"
People were actually complaining specifically about OpenAI/Anthropic glazing and the countless influencer comments and posts here every hour.
And it's getting twisted into "People want HN without AI."
But that was never the case. I mean some surely do. But the blow-up this morning was specific to Anthropic ads to the point there's basically no information on this website that isn't related to Anthropic or OpenAI.
If it was announced some rando kid made a LLM in PHP or something, sure share it! If it was announced someone actually made something cool with AI (lol) then share it!
But Claude 24/7 aint it. It's at least extremely boring!
Great use of AI
Do you have one but only with AI? like, a toggle on what side to see?
Edit: ah yes, sure it exists
I'm thinking you saw it but yeah, you can only have AI news if you invert the argument: https://hcker.news/?ai=include
I prefer lobste.rs for this.
We just did this last month;
Stick to sharing your thing in the current thread today:
Ask HN: Can we please limit the AI news flood?
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=49657850
The first link is about HuggingFace, lmao.
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