22 comments

  • t0mas88 an hour ago

    People don't really live there, these are holiday/recreational homes. My family owns two of those islands with a holiday home.

    Typically you use them for the weekend. My mom for example lives in a busy city and has a small garden, she uses the holiday home as a weekend getaway and a place to keep the sailing boat.

    The Netherlands are small and this area is very central, about 20 minutes drive from Amsterdam or Utrecht. So most owners use it in the same way.

    • sundache an hour ago

      You're not allowed to live there officially, but some people do.

      • t0mas88 an hour ago

        Yes but those mostly live landside, there are holiday homes at the edge of the lake as well. There was a plan to allow permanent use, but I think it now changed to only allowing it for people that already live there and no new cases.

        • CalRobert 41 minutes ago

          Seems a shame in a housing crisis.

          • analog31 36 minutes ago

            Let me guess, no sewage disposal.

          • retired 36 minutes ago

            There is a reason for it. Infrastructure, access roads, public transit stops, build quality, utilities. The Netherlands has very high standards for homes and the direct surroundings and these homes do not meet those criteria. You would also have significantly more emissions if people started living there which would go against the emission limits for nearby nature.

  • DivingForGold 44 minutes ago

    I read these properties are actually some of the most expensive properties in The Netherlands ($ million dollar).

    But no electricity (need generator) and you cannot drive your car to your lakehouse.

    Plus, I bet the mosquitos are horrible, it is a former swamp.

    • t0mas88 26 minutes ago

      There is electricity now, but it's quite new. Before that ours used to run on solar + batteries, you don't want a noisy generator in the middle of a nature area. A holiday home doesn't need that much electricity, warm water and heating use gas.

      Prices are typical for this side of the country.

    • retired 27 minutes ago

      Easily over a million for the ones without neighbors. The most expensive one was listed for 13 million.

      These are holiday homes for wealthy elites in Amsterdam. You either go there straight from Amsterdam by helicopter or you have a chauffeur drive/boat you there. These people don’t drive themselves.

      But probably not for long with non-primary real estate being taxed at 2.2% a year.

  • nsm 18 minutes ago

    Is this area the inspiration for the Gyptians in The Golden Compass?

  • lefra an hour ago

    Obnoxious cookie banner with no "reject all" button. Too bad, it sounded interesting.

    • clickety_clack an hour ago

      Isn’t that actually illegal under GDPR? There’s a reason all the other sites allow you to opt out and it’s not because they want to do that.

      • CalRobert 44 minutes ago

        Violating gdpr is apparently legal. But even having opt out instead of opt in is in violation

      • retired 35 minutes ago

        Yes. But it is not enforced. The largest Dutch tech website is not GDPR compliant.

  • Deukhoofd an hour ago

    I wonder how they're doing right now with water levels reaching critical low points.

    • t0mas88 an hour ago

      Water levels in this area are tightly managed by pumps. Also in normal times they pump water in and out to keep a specific level. All of this is lower than the Amsterdamrijnkanaal, so without pumps it would flood, water doesn't naturally flow out of this place only from evaporation.

  • yieldcrv an hour ago

    I googled peat so you dont have to

    Peat is a soft, spongy material made from dead plants that did not fully rot. It forms very slowly in wet, swampy places called bogs

    It is used as fuel as well as fertilizer

    • culi a few seconds ago

      Anybody whose done any amount of gardening or has houseplants is probably familiar with peat. Though its harvest is destructive to the unique peat bog environments it forms

    • _puk 25 minutes ago

      It is also a fantastic carbon sink.

      https://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2022/02/21/headway/peat-...

      "Although peatlands make up just 3 percent of land on Earth, they store twice as much carbon as all the world’s forests combined."

      Nice it was historically just dug up and the leftovers turned into expensive holiday homes.

    • al_borland 9 minutes ago

      It is also used to give whisky a smokey taste.

    • clickety_clack an hour ago

      It usually holds many times its solid weight in water. If you add load to it by building something on it (without designing around the ground conditions) it can compress to a fraction of its volume, resulting in ground settlements that can be very large.

    • mistrial9 an hour ago

      pre-industrial peoples in some parts of the world used this material extensively.. some still do