30 comments

  • SoftTalker an hour ago

    Be wary of vanity TLDs and even some country codes, they may be available but once the renewal rolls around and you've invested time and effort into establishing a presence there, you may be in for a price shock.

    • inigyou 14 minutes ago

      You're also subject to US law on anything that isn't a ccTLD and even several ccTLDs.

  • reticulates an hour ago
    • moffkalast an hour ago

      It's always struck me as odd that TLDs are not just, well, freely configurable? Domains have always been subject to so much artificial scarcity for seemingly no reason. Why can't a DNS resolver handle .whatever?

      • christina97 6 minutes ago

        This wouldn’t really reduce the scarcity though. Right now everyone wants a “.com”, because it’s the convention. If you could buy the TLD “widget” for the same price as “widget.com”, then you would just move up one level in the domain hierarchy and have the same scarcity? If anything, the fact that there are several legitimate TLD options reduces the scarcity a tiny bit?

        As an aside (I’m also annoyed by domain squatters etc), it is a fascinating market study how domains are artificially scarce the way they are when everyone can easily and cheaply buy them. I am not sure there is any reasonable solution to it.

      • inigyou 13 minutes ago

        The social fabric of the system would fall apart if people could trivially buy top level domains. Even the not so trivial buying that ICANN began in 2015 in order to profiteer was a serious mistake (to everyone besides ICANN).

        it would be a global first come first serve namespace.

      • culi an hour ago

        Maybe it's useful for ICANN to delegate management to different orgs (mostly corporations) so they don't have to control every single website on earth directly

        I would actually prefer for the ICANN to have even less power and for the whole system to be even more distributed

        • inigyou 5 minutes ago

          What we should have is a root zone consisting only of country codes, and technical TLDs like .arpa, and no central authority on this file. It should be reasonable enough to get consensus on who runs the DNS root for each country. These don't change too frequently. And then each country can do whatever it wants inside its own TLD.

          The problem is the US is grandfathered in without staying inside its TLD. This was manageable when it was just .com .org .net etc. but now ICANN has abused this position to mint thousands of new US TLDs outside of .us. If they were inside .us this would only be a problem for whoever runs .us but because they are top-level it makes it difficult to have a decentralised root zone and not just rely on what ICANN publishes. Which is part of the point I'm sure.

      • Foorack an hour ago

        It can, you just need to pay $210,000 to buy that TLD.

        • moffkalast an hour ago

          Hmm okay to rephrase my question, why are ICANN such money grubbing assholes? Is it a political thing?

          • edent 32 minutes ago

            The boring answer is that infrastructure costs money.

            You either use taxes from everyone to pay for it or you take money from the people using the thing.

          • r_lee 21 minutes ago

            it's like Wikipedia begging for money saying they don't have enough

          • doublerabbit an hour ago

            Because they can; it's a racket. Like paid SSL certificates, all of it is corporate greed.

            One solution is running your own DNS servers. This way you can list your own TLD's. However good luck in convincing others to change their DNS.

            • wizzwizz4 41 minutes ago

              Obligatory shout-out to OpenNIC: https://servers.opennic.org/

              • inigyou 3 minutes ago

                I tried to join OpenNIC once but, like many such small informal organisations, the ingroup dynamics are quite toxic.

              • culi 33 minutes ago

                I never heard of OpenNIC before! Cool project. I wonder how complicated would it be for a layperson like me to have my website work on OpenNIC and regular DNS at the same time

                • doublerabbit 19 minutes ago

                  Not sure it's possible because dotCom is owned by verisign and designated to the internet root servers. Your ISP, ISP Peering DNS, and any other DNS service would override any of your DNS zones.

                  It does make me wonder if I hosted my own root servers for a new dotCom tld would I get chased down by the internet police?

                  • inigyou 10 minutes ago

                    No, there's no internet police who would stop you from doing that. However you had better point your .com to Verisign's .com or so many things won't work when connected to your DNS server. Also you will never get IANA to recognise you as the new authority for .com which means people will need to go out of their way to use your root zone instead of the de-facto-standard one published by IANA.

                    It's a bit like signing your website certificate with your own root certificate. The protocol itself is agnostic to who issues the root certificates, but good luck convincing distros to install yours by default, so your website will only be accessible by people who go far out of their way to install it.

                    It's a shame, because ICANN being under US jurisdiction is effectively an attack against the DNS.

      • PunchyHamster 38 minutes ago

        The reason is money

  • Retr0id 44 minutes ago

    An impressively busy UI for such low information density.

  • seydor 35 minutes ago

    there s always a .com with some imagination

    • sixtyj 22 minutes ago

      And if you find one as available, book it and pay it immediately.

    • bthornbury 22 minutes ago

      lots of good ones still

  • agys an hour ago

    I went with

    https://meltd.ooo/wn

    for my little NFT project

  • doublerabbit an hour ago

    Thanks to Brexit, I lost my .eu domains. This really pissed me off.

    Maybe it's a good thing we are all afraid to visit any other tld other than dotCom.

    • inigyou 3 minutes ago

      You could've found an EU person to hold the domains for you btw.

      Regardless, it's usually politically safest to put your domains under your own country's ccTLD. That way, you're exposed to one fewer country's dumb politics.

    • culi 42 minutes ago

      dot org is right there and is at least run by a non profit. The SAVE .ORG campaign succeeded in preventing private equity from buying it out. Thanks to EFF, Wikipedia, NPR, Greenpeace, the YMCA, and even the Girl Scouts!

      • jsrcout 27 minutes ago

        Yikes, must have missed that one. Horrifying thought.

  • ck2 an hour ago

    I'm surprised that "AI" right inside most search engines these days was not the final nail in the coffin of domain importance, and specifically .com

    browsers hiding most of the URL also negated much of the importance and was a nail

    QR codes on everything and all phones in everyone's hands all the time was another nail

    You just don't want a scammy TLD but not even sure what those are these days anymore