Show HN: What should the GUI for AI agents look like?

(marbleos.com)

54 points | by akbabu 5 hours ago ago

32 comments

  • qsort 3 hours ago

    I completely agree with you that the chat interface is very undercooked and there's a big untapped space for agent-first interfaces, perhaps even replacing traditional desktop metaphors. You're spot on with your premise.

    With that said, from the material you show in your homepage, it still seems like you're doing something very similar to OpenAI and Anthropic's first party apps? I think it would help your pitch if you could show some task or workflow where your interface truly makes a difference; loading files and asking questions about them is a staple of most harnesses.

    • CWhiting 17 minutes ago

      I just want a clean way to manage chats, projects, and research. I mean I know I can pin so many chats, and I can group things in projects.

      But I am doing a brand design project with nearly 30 - 40 chats in one project at the moment, and the fact that you can't rename a chat from within a chat (or even see the autogenerated name for that point). You can't tag or apply any logical grouping to chats in a project i.e. Logo, Wordmark, Email Footer, Social Branding, etc.

      I spent a long time going through all the chats manually and then giving them a naming convention with tags built into the titles so that I can navigate the chats in my project. Even then, I still have to scroll through the whole list to find what I want.

    • miguelacevedo 2 hours ago

      I think a better example is how Marble makes tools visible and easy to select for each task instead of requiring you to remember what exists or describing everything through the prompt.

      Marble keeps the tools you use most close at hand and will surface other useful ones for the job. Combined with a birds eye view of multiple tasks running, it makes agent work easier to set up and manage. The goal is to minimize cognitive overhead in day to day tasks (both in specifying what you want, and managing after you ran something)

      • supermatt an hour ago

        > Marble makes tools visible and easy to select for each task

        Isn't that what current agents already do? e.g. codex: https://ibb.co/Y71qJJZb

      • staplers 2 hours ago

        I think this highlights most how separated actual os' are from practical ai today (even while terminal apps live in them). If apple owned CC I could do this right in the macos gui. Instead apple ai is half baked and claude code gui is half baked.

        It's similar to needing aol to get online in the 90s/00s. Eventually this will become built in and become invisible in a sense.

        I'm glad someone is working on this because it's been annoying having to sacrifice process to gain capability.

  • visarga 2 hours ago

    Best interface in my opinion is a git tracked folder, files as state, agents coming in and doing work. It's not just a chat interface because in chat mode everything flows like water under the bridge. It is files as agents, where you get the agent to write a task in a file, and then it updates the file like a blackboard as it performs work. Same task file can be seen by worker agent, multiple judge agents (for plan and implementation), documentation agents and reflexion agents (improve workflow). I would also track every user message in a chat_log.md for reflexion agents (what is wrong with the workflow) and intent review (is the agent still following user intent?).

    • jaapz 27 minutes ago

      Sure but this is a very software engineer coded answer

      What about people who don't think like you

  • johngoode 2 hours ago

    Lost me at having to click to use particular tools

  • mickeyp an hour ago

    I think it should look like this: https://www.dreamcoder.ai/

    A smart, tiling window manager with workspaces and a great tool harness. An everything app, if you may; bring the terminals, code reviews, etc. into the tool itself, and make it high fidelity: no blocky terminals for the app itself.

  • 2001zhaozhao 2 hours ago

    These Todo items on the side in the video seem to be useful.

    I'm not so sure about that tool toolbar. It might as well just be a tool selector dropdown in a typical chat window.

  • quietfox 3 hours ago

    A quick FYI: at marbles.com/learn, starting from „Turn Messy Notes into Today’s Task List“ the demo videos don’t work for me. I tried Safari and Chrome.

    • akbabu an hour ago

      Thanks! We fixed some of the videos now.

  • PaulRobinson 3 hours ago

    This is definitely an iterative improvement on what we have today. However, I think from a fundamental approach, you've just highlighted the pain of working with AI that I hadn't quite been able to verbalise until seeing this.

    Go and have a look at the history of Microsoft OLE and OpenDoc and you'll see some of these ideas have been around for a while. When these ideas were first being shared in the industry (and yes, I am that old), here's the story that was being told:

    In the future, you wouldn't buy "a word processor" or "an image editor", you'd buy components that could do specific tasks, and you'd bring them to your document/work as and when you needed. I'd have DTP components for layout, word processing components for spell checking, image components for resizing and colour balancing, and I'd be heads down in my fancy newsletter or report, and I'd be bringing functionality to the work I needed to do, without having to context switch and import/export things by hand.

    The demo you've shown on the homepage is almost the opposite of this: I'm not bringing things into my work (fanning in), I'm starting agents to go and do lots of different bits of work (fanning out), that eventually I'm going to need to think about how to structure and fan in again.

    I think coding interfaces kind of force us into a fan-in: here's my code base, now I want to improve test coverage, now I want to refactor, now I want to add this SDK, now I want to change this logic to use the SDK based on configuration params, now I want to improve my integration tests, and so on. I'm flowing through my work in a single asset (the code base), and able to bring agents and other tools to it.

    Now, I'd like that, but for everything else. The UI I'd like allows me to build around the assets I am building.

    Planning a trip? OK, I need to bring various agents along to help me plan an itinerary (in my calendar), based on location, budget, and preferences. It's not good enough to list the top 10 must-see places in Venice, I need them to fit into my calendar including travel time, and my budget - I want agents to help me plan that out. Ideally I want agents to help me and my partner both contribute to that based on our wants.

    Need to do a report for the big boss? OK, I need to start with an empty report doc, and bring various sources of data, and take it through transformations to build the narrative/deck I need to write. Here's some excel data, here's an agent that can do some competitive analysis, here's another that is pulling quotes from real customers on social media, and so on...

    Want to learn a new skill? We're going to need to have a framework for assessing where I am in terms of that skill (the "single asset" we're working on is "what I know"), and then agents to figure out the best way for me to fill gaps and reinforce what I already know.

    Your demo is nicer than a chat box, but I think you need to think about the job that needs to be done, and how to bring agents to that job (perhaps even suggest those jobs - that could be another agent), not build a UI to just allow me to fire off dozens of agents that then have output sat in multiple windows across my screen.

    • miguelacevedo an hour ago

      The key design tension is whether the main space should be the asset you are working on or the work being delegated.

      For a lot of tasks, I don’t think you will need to stay inside the document or app the whole time. But I can also imagine starting from an asset you already have open ie a PDF, spreadsheet, etc and bringing agents and tools into that context, rather than creating a separate task and attaching the asset again.

      With that in mind, I agree that fanning out into disconnected task outputs is not enough. Sometimes the asset itself should become the center of the workspace, with the delegated work happening around it.

  • gaigalas 2 hours ago

    It does feel novel.

    However, I believe the GUI for AI agents that will win is a plain text editor with a file tree, a terminal pane for coding (or preview pane for other kinds of tasks) and a chat sidebar.

    Even if the code editor is not used to type, it's there for psychological safety. It lets you inspect and navigate what is being created. Has tremendous value.

    Plain text has survived countless software revolutions, so it's likely to become the dominant format for artifacts produced by AI. Non-plain text things are likely to adapt instead of the other way around.

    "Strange terminal commands" have survived, while even poweruser toolbar style have started to fade (I love them, but they're fading away). It clearly has some value (hint: speed over familiarity).

    I think the poweruser toolbar style was indeed the only thing in the past couple of decades that really tried to match the terminal for speed of interaction. In my opinion, it succeeded, but it has its limits too (tends to clump with stuff over time; has a limit on the amount of abstractions it can hold). I would love to see a candidate GUI that tackles that speed angle.

    • contrast 29 minutes ago

      I broadly agree. Plain text formats remain consistently accessible and flexible.

      That said, arguably the dominant AI artifacts are binary images, video, audio.

      The "preview panes for other kinds of tasks" will be a big deal. Humans tend prefer rich text editors (I think?). Also spreadsheets, page layouts, node graphs, timelines, hex editors, ...

      So maybe the preview panes are actually editors themselves? Speaking personally, I enjoy closely coupled combinations of underlying plain text representations with task-specific UI on top.

    • akbabu 2 hours ago

      Plain text is great for transmitting information that's already specified, but human intent doesn't come out fully formed. Plaintext alone won't be the main way for humans to express intent and interact with an agent.

      • gaigalas 2 hours ago

        That makes a lot of sense when reading, but in reality a lot of things have snapped back to plain text over and over again.

        I don't know the exact reason for that, but it's undeniable that it happened.

        Lots of people try completely new novel GUI stuff all the time, always from basic principles. Looks clean and neat but doesn't survive the real world. Meanwhile, plain text tools have been improving and spreading roots consistently for decades.

        Could be that a GUI gets some showtime, but wouldn't bet against plain text at any time. It's like betting against spoons.

        • akbabu an hour ago

          Yeah, we speak in words, so I'm not saying text would go away entirely. Even in our Marble interface, you can still type follow-up prompts to a task. But plaintext won't be an interface by itself.

          • gaigalas an hour ago

            One thing I mentioned before is that the representation of artifacts produced by AI being inspectable has notable value.

            I miss this in some existing agentic interfaces. I'm not typing into the text editor, I'm inspecting the work it does. Not exactly "reading every line", but definitely inspecting.

            I understand not all kinds of works can be like this, and having to understand how "a bunch of text files" become something else (a program, or a page, or etc) is really taxing on cognition (that's why GUIs exist), but also really beneficial for verification (you can see the guts of the thing).

            So, it's not prose text. I'm talking about the artifact produced by the agent having a plain text representation.

            Lacking that produces back-and-forth interactions that feel exhausting. I can make Claude design a spreasheet for me, and it will present it beautifully for me, with export to Google Sheets and so on. But then, changes to it don't let me dig up into it interactively. I need to open the spreadsheet externally, then translate my attempt at debugging the issue to the chat back, which is super slow.

            Designing one inspectable interface for each kind of produced artifact/outcome sounds like a lot of work. And plain text solves this beautifully (it is an interface) by introducing formats (like Markdown for documents).

            I'm not suggesting every single AI user will eventually migrate to IDEs with sidebars, but I think something closer to it will be prominent for a foreseeable future in major important work done with AI assistance (the kinds of things that really matter, big work).

            Some of your demos are not opening, so I don't know what is the MarbleOS solution for things like spreadsheets or more elaborate artifacts that, today, in tools like Claude, produce this exhausting back-and-forth I mentioned.

            Also, I must say the exhausting part is really only exhausting for power users (the guy that does a lot of spreadsheets needs the speed, not the ease of use). For beginners, a more guided approach might be best. For something that carries the OS terminology, I would expect both approaches to be present at some capacity (other harnesses fail at this too, so don't worry).

  • jdw64 3 hours ago

    I don't think we should homage GUI for AI agent workflows. The terminal and Mac GUI are 100% deterministic when you click an icon, but I'm not sure if visualizing agent workflows is the right call.

    The problem is that AI workflows are inherently different for each person.

    The current approach feels like it's forcing a CLI-based model on users. I also don't think chat is a suitable fundamental unit for task delegation.

    I've worked on writing a compiler using both hand-written code and AI. Once the project exceeds a certain size, the chat itself becomes a bottleneck. In those cases, I needed proof and gates like Rocq. So in essence, AI coding requires clear negative gates that should be rejected when approaching the goal.

    I think something like Figma's canvas model might become the new interface.

    Because no matter how meta you make it, agent workflows are ultimately optimized for the individual. My settings often don't match someone else's.

    Computers also have this problem, but in that case, you can enforce defaults. With AI agents, it's different.

    That's why I think we need a canvas—something like a workspace next to the user space where agent workflows can be dynamically adjusted.

    I focus most of my coding effort on building gates that AI-generated code must pass through when it's being produced. That approach has allowed me to handle much larger volumes of code.

    The future agent GUI will be about supervising multiple asynchronous tasks.

    In a way, this might end up resembling object-oriented programming—just with task graphs instead of object graphs.

    Once AI starts generating code, it flows out like water through a burst dam. It's impossible for any human to fully understand it all. At first, I tried to understand every line, but that actually turned out to be less efficient than just writing the code myself. There's a clear fundamental mismatch between the way AI thinks about code and the way I do.

    This mismatch seems like an unsolvable impedance mismatch problem—similar to the one between ORM and SQL. So once you decide to use AI agent code, you have no choice but to shift your focus from reviewing the code itself to trusting the gates you've built around it.

    The key question is how tightly you can build those gates. And I don't think chat-based interfaces are capable of providing that level of control.

    • akbabu 2 hours ago

      Totally agreed that chat interfaces won’t be sufficient to enforce complicated gates. Our interface does have the concept of a workspace, where you can see all the cards at-a-glance within the workspace. But graphs, or otherwise finding a way to have the tasks interact with each other, could be an interesting direction.

      • jdw64 2 hours ago

        I think being able to view it as a graph would make things much faster. Because choosing to use AI means you're taking on work that exceeds your own cognitive limits.

        For small tasks, you don't need AI. You can produce high-quality code just fine on your own. I can maintain very high quality for codebases up to about 40,000 lines. But using AI means you're trying to handle complexity at the scale of 100,000, 200,000, or even 300,000 lines, complexity that an individual can't fully digest. That requires an additional interface, and I believe that interface should be graph-based.

        I agree with your view. I like this product quite a bit, but for controlling AI, I think it's still at the prototype stage

  • jonathanstrange 2 hours ago

    I only use web chat with copy&paste and file upload option. Anything else I don't trust, especially since the people who create AI harnesses and apps use AI to develop them.

  • Animats 2 hours ago

    Why are you assuming that the human is in charge? Needing a human to drive the AI is probably a transitional phase.

    • pmg101 2 hours ago

      Whether or not it's a transitional phase, it seems reasonable to want and to build better tools for where we are now rather than where we may be in some unspecified future, wouldn't you say?

    • akbabu 2 hours ago

      We think that humans will remain in charge for quite some time. Even a superintelligence won't know what we want until we tell it. The process of communicating intent/desires etc to an AI agent is a nontrivial interface problem (which Marble is trying to get at).

    • mechazawa 2 hours ago

      Agents frequently go off on tangents, make wrong decisions, require feedback etc. Agents have never moved away from being a junior that knows everything about programming but has no idea how to properly apply it.

    • axod 2 hours ago

      If the human isn't ultimately in charge, don't be surprised when AI decides to eliminate humanity "for the greater good" or something.

      • altmanaltman an hour ago

        That would require consiousness and intent on part of the AI but we can have highly autonomous agents with no consiousness and intent as well and most likely that's what we will get. It still cannot just magically get free will, intent, and the ability to "eliminate humanity".

        • axod an hour ago

          Wouldn't need any of that. An AI agent setup to "Do the best for the world" or some other broad claim, and with enough power to say crash the stock market, disrupt power supply, delivery, etc etc after reasoning that it's all for the best.

          If people start giving enough power to AI, with ill thought out goals, and no human in charge, don't be surprised...

          Why would it need "free will" or "consciousness" whatever that means?

          A concrete example might be putting an AI in charge of health policy, and telling it to "eliminate suffering" without any human to check and push back. Well, the best way to eliminate suffering is...

    • reverius42 an hour ago

      Transition to what?