21 comments

  • cocacola1 40 minutes ago

    I enjoyed her translation. Also really liked the movie. 10/10, trying to rewatch in IMAX without having to take front row seats.

  • zooweemama 23 minutes ago

    I haven't seen it yet, but how do people feel it compares to Lord of the Rings as an adaptation?

    • radu_floricica 16 minutes ago

      I don't think it does? Nor is it trying to. LotR was something that happens once every 50 years - a movie series that's as good as the source material and holds quality over 3 movies (wonder why they didn't do the Hobbit as well). The Oddyssey is a summer blockbuster. A good one, I definitely recommend it, but far from memorable.

    • seabombs 12 minutes ago

      Funny you mention LotR, coming out of the theatre after watching The Odyssey I thought "man, if only Peter Jackson had made this".

      The landscapes were often gorgeous, but otherwise I thought it was all a bit dull unfortunately. Can only imagine what it would have been like if someone as detail-obsessed as PJ took it on.

  • petesergeant 29 minutes ago

    I read about 2/3rds of this before giving up. People who are upvoting it: what are you getting from this review that I'm missing, exactly?

    • epihelix a few seconds ago

      Personally, I was delighted to read the thoughts and perspective of someone who knows and understands the Odyssey better than just about anyone, on the Nolan film adaptation. It was eloquent and educated, and provided some unique criticisms that I've not read elsewhere.

      The fact that Nolan claims inspiration from the author's translation adds additional interest and relevance, of course.

      Plus, there were some delightfully cutting lines about how abysmally terrible and expository Nolan's dialogue is, which alone were worth the price for admission for me.

    • blitzar 5 minutes ago

      Reads like the author is getting paid by the word and using all of them

  • squidsoup 3 hours ago

    > "The Odyssey features his usual combination of grandiosity and superficiality".

    A pretty succinct summation of Nolan as a filmmaker.

  • class3shock 3 hours ago

    I'm not a scholar of Greek history but as layman, I thought it was good and good enough to recommend. Visually it is quite beautiful and despite what the review states it does have an ethical thread at its core it follows. There are some choices I just don't understand; the armor, mostly the Trojans and Agamemnon's, looks like something that would be on a low budget scifi tv show and jamming a bunch of well known celebrities in bit parts is just distracting. If you can get behind a pretty, modern day take, on the story I would give it a shot.

  • protocolture 17 minutes ago

    Take <standard hollywood mythoslop> add <overrated director who cant handle audio engineering> and apparently you get $$$$$$$$

    • denkmoon 12 minutes ago

      Is the audio engineering bad in this one like all his others?

      • jbstack a few seconds ago

        Yes. It's often hard to hear the dialogue.

      • protocolture 2 minutes ago

        After Dunkirk and Tenet I wont be tricked into finding out again.

  • bragh 3 hours ago

    Fair enough about the other points. But this is a ridiculous "hot take":

    > There are no sex scenes, and all the food looks horrible.

    Yes and if there were sex scenes, then the film would get criticized for having sex scene(s), not being able to tell the story of a Greek epic without turning it into erotica or something.

    • GlobalFrog an hour ago

      And there are no sex scene in the original tale. Sex is slightly evocated by two mentions of Ulysses sharing the bed or Circe and Calypso, but without any depiction of sex.

      • wzdd an hour ago

        Wilson didn’t write “sex scene”, she wrote “sex”. In the story there is plenty of implied sex. In the movie there is none. It’s not a major issue in itself, it’s part of a broader point about movie Odysseus being “uncomplicated” versus the story— both morally, and when it comes to passions (sex, food, revenge).

        • comex 3 minutes ago

          The review does in fact use the phrase “sex scenes”.

          Not that I disagree with your latter point.

    • squidsoup 2 hours ago

      Greek mythology is full of sex, and the Odyssey is no exception.

      • petesergeant 31 minutes ago

        The Odyssey is full of worrying about who might bang who, rather than actual sex.

    • runarberg 2 hours ago

      I read this as a stylistic choice by the reviewer, she was clearly having a great time writing this awesome review, and decided to put this at the end of her conclusion to add flavor to to it, something she points out is missing in the movie.

      This review was an amazing read, by an amazing writer, and in my opinion these 11 words were the best part.

  • throwaway3060 12 minutes ago

    I am not an expert in this space, so hopefully an actual expert will come by and clarify, but I am pretty sure that "The current consensus [...] is that there was no such thing as ‘the sea peoples’" is just flat out untrue. (IIUC, what is the current consensus is that they did not "cause" the late bronze age collapse). That colors how I read the rest of the review.

    Edit: Personally, I enjoyed that particular addition to the plotline, as unrealistic as it is.