62 comments

  • simonw 2 hours ago

    > OpenAI nearly doubled its federal lobbying expenditure to a record $2.22mn in the first half of 2026, compared to last year, while Anthropic nearly tripled its spending to $3.53mn, according to federal disclosures.

    Never ceases to amaze me how cheap lobbying is. That's pocket change for these companies.

    • Aunche 22 minutes ago

      Lobbying expenditures are given to lobbyists not politicians. You're primarily paying for the salary of some humanities or social science majors and their travel expenses, which isn't that much money.

      This should be a basic fact. If those who spend a good portion of time being angry at lobbyists yet intelligent enough to make mid-six figures conflate bribery with lobbying, it should be no surprise the corporations have captured the government. The general public has essentially zero civic understanding while corporations are able to hire the few that do.

      • user- 12 minutes ago

        Can you explain what you mean by

        >some humanities or social science majors

        this? Im sensing some meaning towards you calling out their degrees.

        Your comment implies you have some deep civic understanding so can you expland on what your POV is? Im not american and would like to konw.

      • goldlimetea 12 minutes ago

        > not politicians

        hahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahahhahaa

    • jerf 30 minutes ago

      Compared to the bailout they're going to get at some point, because they're vital to national security and whatever, I think you could easily be looking at a 1000x+ return on investment on those numbers.

    • 01284a7e 2 hours ago

      It's so cheap that normal people could band together and re-buy democracy. It's the banding together part that is hard.

      • jonas21 an hour ago

        Many of the groups that spend the most on lobbying are composed of "normal" people who have banded together for some common interest. For example:

        - The AARP ($21M annual spend) has 38M members

        - The National Association of Realtors ($54M annual spend) has 1.5M members

        - The American Medical Association ($24M annual spend) has 300K members

        Of course that doesn't mean that their interests necessarily align with your interests.

        • 0xdeadbeefbabe an hour ago

          Also if they want my money then their interests align.

          • smallmancontrov 23 minutes ago

            "People of the same trade seldom meet together, even for merriment and diversion, but the conversation ends in a conspiracy against the public, or in some contrivance to raise prices." - Adam Smith

            • ben_w 13 minutes ago

              A curious choice of quote on a tech forum attached to a VC firm :P

              • smallmancontrov 6 minutes ago

                You know what would be cool? A national startup accelerator!

      • nancyminusone 2 hours ago

        I already pay for my government in taxes (which ironically these big cos don't pay).

        Besides, if I were to gather up 4 million to lobby, the opposition would simply spend 8 million instead which they could come up with just as easily. They don't have to outrun the bear, the just have to outrun you.

        • simonw 2 hours ago

          Yeah, I would like my taxes to go to paying for expertise to help make good governance decisions, personally.

          • TeMPOraL an hour ago

            Oh so you're aligned with AI lobbying then?

            j/k, but then again, it's not like we have other means to "help make good governance decisions" that we haven't already tried before. Maybe except the failed cybernetics experiments that came a little before their time and in the wrong political regime, but then those are effectively replicated by any large multinational internally to some extent.

      • triceratops 2 hours ago

        Normal people can't offer speaking fees, consulting gigs, and other sinecures to politicians and their staffers after they leave the government.

        • thewebguyd an hour ago

          Right. That's what actually buys you the politician. Being able to promise "Pass this regulation for us and we'll make sure you are set up for life, since we know it's politically unfavorable"

          the ~$2M just gets your foot in the door, that's it.

          • triceratops an hour ago

            And also they can threaten to fund an opponent's PAC.

            • reactordev 36 minutes ago

              Or primary you

              • triceratops 2 minutes ago

                Opponents run in primaries too, not just general elections.

      • Aurornis 34 minutes ago

        This is what a PAC is. Political Action Committee.

        They primarily only get headlines for outrage topics when people don’t like what they’re pushing toward. Many of the top PACs are from groups like realtors or sheet metal workers lobbying for their interests.

        Most people skip PACs and donate straight to political candidates instead. Individual donations to candidates outweigh anything the AI companies are spending by a huge number.

        • CSSer 31 minutes ago

          Yes, and it’s trivial to form one! If you look up the documentation necessary you may not believe your eyes.

      • renegade-otter an hour ago

        I think of that Netflix series on FIFA and its rampant corruption. The bribes in question are laughable, considering that FIFA is a multi-billion dollar operation, and it's always some round number like $1M. At least add some cents to it so it's not glaringly obvious in the bank accounts.

        • TeMPOraL an hour ago

          Are the bribes round, or is it just usual bullshit journalism practice of fudging the numbers and rounding them in the process (usually made apparent when there are multiple reports for the same number, each using different units of currency or measure).

      • jmyeet 14 minutes ago

        The estimated spending on the 2026 election season is $11.6 billion [1]. One primary has had an estimated $60 million spent on it (ie the Michigan Democratic primary). Thomas Massie's primary had an estimated $35 million spent on it. A GOP Super PAC has earmarked $342 million for 8 Senate races [2].

        Over $5 billion was spent on lobbying in 2025 [3].

        To truly move policy you need to get pliable representatives first and that's not just money. There is a pipeline here. First, you get the right connections. That could be coming from a wealth family, be the nephew or grandson of some politician, do your time as a staffer or whatever. Going up through the ranks acts as a giant filter to make sure you will maintain the status quo. So you have to find candidates to run for these offices who have been weeded out by the existing processes. And if you don't have enough of them, the DNC or RNC will spend selectively against you in the primary and general election. And an increasing number of races have over $100 million spent on them.

        Buying back democracy would be very, very expensive.

        And then after all that there's the income and jobs pipeline. Your children get six-figure jobs with think tanks and interested companies. You leave office and get placed on boards of large companies. You can't compete with that.

        [1]: https://finance.yahoo.com/media-advertising/articles/2026-el...

        [2]: https://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/5818507-gop-super-pac-...

        [3]: https://www.opensecrets.org/federal-lobbying

      • voicedYoda an hour ago

        That's how Groupon originally started.

      • jMyles 36 minutes ago

        It seems to me that there's really nothing at that store that "normal people" want to buy.

        Everything that we want to do can be done through ordinary collaboration with no need for the state. The special services which the state provides (violence and threats of violence, imperialism, inhibition of movement of people and goods across imaginary lines, etc) are the kinds of things that are really only interesting to the kinds of people who are already spending their money on lobbying.

      • runarberg 24 minutes ago

        It would not surprise me that the cost of lobbying rises exponentially as the policy moves left on the political spectrum. That pro-business, pro-austerity, neo-liberal policy is orders of magnitude cheaper to lobby for, then pro-worker, pro-democracy, pro-consumer policy.

      • verisimi 39 minutes ago

        "re-buy democracy"

        • vitorfblima 20 minutes ago

          It says a lot, if you think about it.

    • kazinator 16 minutes ago

      It's pocket change now, but they are lobbying hard now knowing well they won't be able to afford it later.

    • InsideOutSanta an hour ago

      These numbers are so small that I'm doubly ashamed of all the corruption happening. If politicians at least sold out for fuck-you money, I'd understand, but no.

    • peterbell_nyc 27 minutes ago

      Wow - so one really good researchers salary/stock grant. I feel like they're underinvesting...

      • smallmancontrov 15 minutes ago

        That's what my microeconomics professor said shortly after Citizens United. "If political campaigns were that good of an investment, they'd be investing more!" ...and then they did. Outside spending absolutely took off after 2010 and shows no signs of slowing down. The conclusion he jumped to was false and it was false because he ignored the possibility that price discovery might take a while.

    • butlike 43 minutes ago

      Well you don't want to push the price up any more than you have to since then each subsequent lobby will cost a minimum of that amount.

    • shevy-java an hour ago

      That's most definitely not the real sum.

      People need to look at financial kick backs. There is a certain guy here in central Europe who left politics quite recently, but suddenly has 400 million euros wealth - out of nowhere. And nobody questions how he got that ...

      The corruption happens not only via direct lobbyism. One has to look at the whole corruption bribe bubble here.

    • bena an hour ago

      Because lobbying is essentially just the process of petitioning the government. Mostly.

      It's buying dinners so you can talk with a Representative or Senator one-on-one. It's traveling to D.C. or the Congressperson's home state. It's paying for studies and etc to support your points. It's financing campaigns of politicians who already agree with your viewpoints. It's not "here's money, make law".

      • wat10000 24 minutes ago

        It's also financing campaigns of politicians who don't agree with your viewpoints in the (fully justified) hope that they'll look upon you more favorably if they win. It's thinly veiled promises of cushy jobs after they leave office, if they play ball.

    • paytonjjones 2 hours ago

      Alternatively, couldn't this be seen as evidence on favor of the "corporate narrative" on lobbying? Namely, that the purpose of lobbying is to ensure politicians have instant and easy access to high-quality, insider information relevant to their decision-making on corporate issues (as opposed to simply being bribed)?

      I remember my poli sci teacher on college tried very hard to convince the class of this (with little success).

      • dividefuel 2 hours ago

        I have a family member who's a lobbyist. When he talks about his job, a common theme is that a huge amount of his work is trying assess the impacts of policy on businesses (albeit mainly big businesses) and make sure lawmakers are able to take that into consideration. I don't know how well that represents lobbying as a whole, but that part always made sense and didn't seem like a bribe.

        Several million dollars, as mentioned in the article, could easily be the cost of paying, e.g., 20 people to perform and communicate an assessment, as opposed to a direct "donation" to a politician. It's not said where that money was spent.

      • rawgabbit 42 minutes ago

        Reminds me of the time Tony Blair left office and went to work for JP Morgan Chase.

        https://www.forbes.com/2008/01/10/jpmorgan-consultancy-advis...

      • kylecazar 2 hours ago

        I never understood that narrative either. You won't get high quality information from someone that is paying you for influence. You will get a lopsided/biased perspective, and the unwritten expectation is you will use it or contributions will cease.

        Congress can and does ask companies for their expertise/stance on any given issue or policy, for free. They want to be involved for the same reason they lobby.

        • paytonjjones 2 hours ago

          The same could be said about the judicial system though, right? Both the prosecution and defense are paid to influence the judge, and will naturally provide a biased perspective. But that doesn't mean there's not high quality information within.

          I don't think biased information is a total dead end, but the onus is just on judges and politicians to tease out information from more than one angle. And often they don't.

  • zombittack 22 minutes ago

    You would think if the general public actually wanted this, lobbying wouldn't be necessary. Call your reps. Let them know how you feel about intellectual property theft, wage theft, ecological impacts, and the intentional erosion of the voting power of the majority in modern democracy.

    • FLeXMurphy 20 minutes ago

      Yes, call your reps. See if anything changes since the last time you called them.

  • mrloopex an hour ago

    And this is after crypto bros spent record sums on lobbying 5 years ago.

  • ChrisArchitect 3 hours ago

    Is anyone reading your endless ft.com posts?

    https://archive.ph/PASMJ

    • butlike 42 minutes ago

      I never used to mind captchas until llms came around. Now, train your own damn robot

    • peter_stokes 2 hours ago

      for the first time ever, i got a reCaptcha that required me to scan a QR code? Thankfully when I refreshed the page, I got a new busclicking captcha

      • nozzlegear an hour ago

        > I got a new busclicking captcha

        Busclickers are S-tier captchas IMO, always easy to identify. Motorcycles and bicycles, on the other hand, are maybe the worst – D-tier at best.

        /tangent

        • SoftTalker 12 minutes ago

          And they don't seem to be very particular. I just click a few boxes and usually get past it.

          • nozzlegear 9 minutes ago

            I used to make a game of seeing how few matches, or how many deliberate mismatches, I could get away with while still passing the captcha. It asks for 4 bus images? How about 3 bus images, or 2 bus images and a car?

      • dieselgate 2 hours ago

        I've been seeing them too. Towards the bottom of the recaptcha box there's an option to select "conventional" or similar and not use QR, it's easy to miss

        • peter_stokes 2 hours ago

          oh, thanks for pointing this out ill click that next time. i can be a bit unaware sometimes.

          one time i visited a compromised site that put up a fake cloudflare challenge that told me to paste a script into powershell, and i was all ladeeda nothing seems wrong. only because i forgot how to paste in powershell, did i not run it. i sure tried though. I typed ctrl v about 5 times not realizing it wasnt supported in powershell and then ragequit. funnily enough, whne i refreshed that page to try and get rid of the challenge the page loaded fine. I fail upward like this all the time.

  • shevy-java an hour ago

    That's not new though. Washington succumbed to bribes decades ago already. It just is much more apparent now with the orange king and his billionaire bodies. The Epstein network must be much bigger than what is already known. It is also most likely still existing today, just with different actors. Billionaires want to party - often with people below a certain age ...

    • Arodex 22 minutes ago

      My latest Epstein WTF moment: moot (yeah, the guy from 4chan). Epstein even drive him back home... /pol/ was created a few days later. Qanon went on to start there, before moving to 8chan, a competitor bought by Jim Watkins (and certainly Bannon behind him).

  • Kapura 2 hours ago

    is that good

  • whatever1 an hour ago

    Everyone should be lobbying. It is the golden era of lobbying with 100% success rates. Whether you are in AI or the lettuce industry.

    • vitorfblima 18 minutes ago

      I know many people who are using AI, but only a few are actually eating their lettuces, so I guess there's some conflict there

    • SirHackalot an hour ago

      It was always the era of lobbying, now you just shower the gold-obsessed king with tribute — crypto, ballroom funds, a private jet — in order to buy a presidential decree. Just lay gold and silver at the feet of the monarch and wait for your royal pardon or policy favor.

      • scottyah 7 minutes ago

        It was so funny when Apple gave Trump an actual gold bar