22 comments

  • vvpan 10 minutes ago

    Real World Assets (RWA) is the hot stuff these days. While it is still early the mega-banks are starting to pile on.

    One of the reasons is that any infrastructure built on blockchain is reusable for free by everybody (minus transaction free). Uniswap and Aave have been chugging along for years and are starting to acquire reputation beyond retail. Privacy is moving along as well where you can tokenize, say, bonds and hide the in/out flows with ZK proofs.

    You can track RWA issuance here https://app.rwa.xyz/

  • Animats 9 minutes ago

    "It also includes built-in safeguards that allow the farmer to swap one dead cow for a live one."

    Is that backwards? If you own the token for a cow, and it dies, what happens?

  • tiffanyh an hour ago

    Using livestock as collateral is one of the oldest ways to obtain a loan.

    • marcosdumay 38 minutes ago

      It's also one of the most famous recurrent scams in Brazil.

  • bernardom an hour ago

    Brilliant idea, but why the crypto? Couldn't you simply do the collar + web connection... without crypto?

    • asxndu an hour ago

      With what platform? Stripe, Visa and Banks that arbitrarily ban users?

      • nickphx 41 minutes ago

        huh? platform? lol. you go to bank with proof of collateral.. get secured loan. wtf does everything need a platform or some VC garbage scrambling to find rent.

        • Brian_K_White 3 minutes ago

          even the title says the bank does not give you the loan

        • pstuart 27 minutes ago

          because blockchain blockchains!

          I must confess I'm enamored with the concept of blockchains, but find their value questionable for the most part.

          I even worked for a blockchain startup (non-crypt) but left on less than good terms and a fair amount of PTSD. They were nuts!

  • chrisjj 9 minutes ago

    [delayed]

  • tamimio an hour ago

    This is how economy should work, based on physical tangible assets that owned/existed, not some imaginary value based on whatever speculation, that what ruined housing market, what inflated stocks and allowed cons to get wealthier, it’s also why a lot of companies make fake job posting or pr stunts, it’s all to inflate that imaginary market currency then use it to get a real cash, that should be illegal and is a form of Ponzi scheme fraud, if a house as-built cost is 70k, it shouldn’t be sold for 800k, and the owner shouldn’t be able to use that speculative value to get a 600k loan.

    • WalterBright an hour ago

      It sounds like you're suggesting a barter economy. It works like this:

      1. Bob grows oranges, and wants shoes

      2. Ted hunts for meat, and wants oranges

      3. Sam makes shoes, and wants meat

      The only way this can work is to have a 3-way transaction. But with a money system, the money is traded without needing a 3-way transaction. It's much more efficient.

      • tamimio 42 minutes ago

        Not really, I am not saying to remove moneys entirely and use assets trading only, but the money printed or valued should be based on tangible assets, actual cost, not some made up speculation. As I mentioned above, a house that cost 100k to build and handover should never exceed that value plus profit markup, the older it gets, the cheaper it should be, just like any other assets and like how japan did it to solve the greedy banks/landlords. But obviously such thing needs to be done in an authoritarian manner as in normal democracy it will never be voted for, since most voters are owners. Other examples apply too on why things are waay over inflated for what they worth, including stocks.

        • daedrdev 26 minutes ago

          This is because our glorious government makes it illegal to build housing. Japan doesnt force anything, their private companies built tons of housing because there is profit to be made and its not illegal without years of reviews, insane taxes, bribes to various orgs, etc.

          Your policy doesn’t even work in CA, new housing is absurdly expensive to build and the profits aren't even high.

          • mschuster91 13 minutes ago

            > Japan doesnt force anything, their private companies built tons of housing because there is profit to be made and its not illegal without years of reviews, insane taxes, bribes to various orgs, etc.

            Now, would you want to live in a country with conditions so absurd that "hikikomori" and micro apartments [1] are a thing?

            > “A lot of younger people these days don’t have many possessions, unlike older generations – they have a few items of clothing and not that much money, so these apartments are ideal for them,” said Nakama, whose 1,500 micro-apartments have an occupancy rate of 98%.

            Yeah fuck that shit. That's just exploitation, and no wonder the few young people that Japan has end up with all sort of mental health issues, no partners and a birthrate near zero. Nothing to own because there's nowhere to store something you own, not enough space to even invite another person over, much less have sex.

            Cram me into such an "apartment", I'd go and search for a gun to off myself.

            [1] https://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/mar/20/you-could-cook...

            • derektank 10 minutes ago

              >Now, would you want to live in a country with conditions so absurd that "hikikomori" and micro apartments [1] are a thing?

              If it meant I could cut my rental or mortgage bill in half, absolutely. People have different preferences, not everyone needs or wants the same amount of space.

        • throw1234567891 40 minutes ago

          There are no moneys, only money. I don’t understand your reasoning. Why should a house never become more expensive? I built a house in s remote area, 20 years later the region is much more appealing, public transport, shopping, why should I charge less than the market is willing to pay?

          • tamimio 32 minutes ago

            Because a house is a shelter, not an investment, go start a business if you want that. Japan did the right thing and made it a depreciated asset to end this ponzi scheme

            >than the market willing to pay

            That’s the crux, a market speculation. Well, the market is also willing to pay more for death match gambling, that doesn’t mean it should be there.

            • throw1234567891 12 minutes ago

              A cave is also a shelter. You gotta distinguish between some investment money buying properties in thousands, and an individual buying a house to maybe sell it for care at a later stage. If I buy a house and renovate everything, bring the standard up, why should I not be allowed to recoup the money.

              Never been to Japan, they seem like smart people but they do have some issues, especially with elderly care. Maybe if they could sell their property they wouldn’t suffer loneliness so much.

        • nubg 37 minutes ago

          Did it cost 100k to build? How much was the cement worth? Etc. now to create a house from scratch, you must first invent the universe

    • dewey 42 minutes ago

      You should probably read up on why humans initially switched to the currencies or the gold standard later.

      Personally I found this one quite interesting. https://www.lynalden.com/broken-money/

  • guess_who_is_it 2 hours ago

    coindesk only promotes ztrash