11 comments

  • vessenes an hour ago

    Really interesting. Upshot: a well trained multimodal video generation model has a world representation model trained inside it. They’ve done some work lifting this world model out and deploying it to robots, where it seems to work well.

    On the one hand, this isn’t a new idea, and the quality video models certainly have understanding of materials, light, the world (at least in an Occam’s razor sense of understanding). I’m not aware of a video lab that’s turned itself into a robot lab yet, though; perhaps this would be a first, or a new sort of obvious-in-retrospect business path: train video model, sell video generation, scale, use scale to train robot things: profit.

    I found their hands very interesting - looks like a bunch of stuff hidden in gloves - Xiami’s Robotics-1 foundation model just released videos of users training on some pretty standard looking grippers; to the point that there are demo videos of people putting on gripper type gloves to make video to train that model.

    The BFL model looks like it doesn’t need that at all. Given the difficulty of the hardware side, I’ll be curious to see what they do with this.

  • GiffertonThe3rd an hour ago

    The video at around 3.30min, where the robot arm took 3 attempts to reseat the window trim, was quite unnerving - I have not seen such resolving before. Is it new or am I way out of the loop?

    • ra 43 minutes ago

      Yes that was impressive.

  • flufluflufluffy 21 minutes ago

    Ok the phrasing here, it’s, it’s just -

    > However, compared to more specialized approaches for representation learning they produce less disentangled representations, which puts a ceiling on their usefulness for tasks that require world understanding.

    Only an LLM would use a less disentangled representation of the concept “more entangled” when trying to explain to people in the real world why less disentangled representations are not as useful for modeling the real world.

  • rlupi 2 hours ago

    It's nice to see partnerships between European startups.

  • takd an hour ago

    Amazing work.

    u.i. Zugló robot mikor?

  • johnbarron an hour ago

    If Amazon does not buy them, the CEO should be fired...

    • kensai 2 minutes ago

      Are you American? We would prefer it to stay a European company. I personally hope Mistral buys them or somehow they unite to make a stand.

    • windexh8er 14 minutes ago

      I think you meant to type "promoted".