Not unrelated, this kind of information augments all kinda of law enforcement, greatly increasing the lifetime consequences of convictions, though sentencing penalties have remained the same.
Last century, a year in jail ended after the year. Now it is still there for every job application, lease, and loan you might take out in life.
The justice industry benefits with easy information, punishments are amplified and permanent, but crimes keep happening.
Let’s reconsider whether our medieval system benefits society or simply controls and exploits it.
None of those strawman "lefties" would want ICE to have that information.
And that's even ignoring for the moment the fact that things which are obvious weapons and things which are not obvious weapons pose different fundamental risks to society and that therefore it's always a stretch to lump them into the same category.
Nor did they care about establishing vaccine card check points throughout civil society. Imagine if we got to do citizenship checks at bars and restaurants and doctor's offices.
> Nor did they care about establishing vaccine card check points throughout civil society.
And yet the Biden Administration explicitly said it would not require vaccine passports from businesses and never built any national vaccination database or app, so this was just the usual conservative fearmongering.
There was also never an instance whereby vaccine status was required for any kind of travel between states or in daily life outside specific covered venues (for example, restaurants and gyms in NYC, where people would be in very close proximity to others with no other prophylaxis being used).
Meanwhile, conservative NPs are getting jailed and losing their licenses for forging vaccine cards for $7,000 a pop. As they should.
> Imagine if we got to do citizenship checks at bars and restaurants and doctor's offices.
In the last three days, ICE has pulled someone over for a "traffic violation" (which they have zero authority to do) and then said "Your taillights are out. Your papers please."
They’re a threat to those fearing deportation or arrest for criminal activity. If you’re not in those categories, you have exactly nothing to worry about.
I’m a lot more worried about the giant NSA data centers like the one in Utah, funded under prior administrations. Those are definitely warehousing wide-ranging data about all Americans (and others), harvested right off the Internet backbone…
Oh yes, we definitely don't have news or straight up video of people who are regular citizens getting killed for no reason by ICE or even non-citizens getting effectively executed without trial.
Not unrelated, this kind of information augments all kinda of law enforcement, greatly increasing the lifetime consequences of convictions, though sentencing penalties have remained the same.
Last century, a year in jail ended after the year. Now it is still there for every job application, lease, and loan you might take out in life.
The justice industry benefits with easy information, punishments are amplified and permanent, but crimes keep happening.
Let’s reconsider whether our medieval system benefits society or simply controls and exploits it.
The phrase "The Justice Industry" made me throw up in my mouth a little. How far we have fallen.
Nah, we had the "Have you been convicted of a felony in the past 7 years" job application question in the 80's. And background checks were accessible.
A year in jail doesn’t necessarily mean a felony conviction.
https://lawful.com/articles/misdemeanors
> Last century, a year in jail ended after the year. Now it is still there for every job application, lease, and loan you might take out in life.
My state touts that some felonies are eligible for vacation. One of the criteria is "The person has reached 120 years of age."
Wow, this thread really is a cesspool.
Lefties didn't have a problem with this when the intent was tracking ammo purchases.
None of those strawman "lefties" would want ICE to have that information.
And that's even ignoring for the moment the fact that things which are obvious weapons and things which are not obvious weapons pose different fundamental risks to society and that therefore it's always a stretch to lump them into the same category.
Nor did they care about establishing vaccine card check points throughout civil society. Imagine if we got to do citizenship checks at bars and restaurants and doctor's offices.
> Nor did they care about establishing vaccine card check points throughout civil society.
And yet the Biden Administration explicitly said it would not require vaccine passports from businesses and never built any national vaccination database or app, so this was just the usual conservative fearmongering.
There was also never an instance whereby vaccine status was required for any kind of travel between states or in daily life outside specific covered venues (for example, restaurants and gyms in NYC, where people would be in very close proximity to others with no other prophylaxis being used).
Meanwhile, conservative NPs are getting jailed and losing their licenses for forging vaccine cards for $7,000 a pop. As they should.
> Imagine if we got to do citizenship checks at bars and restaurants and doctor's offices.
In the last three days, ICE has pulled someone over for a "traffic violation" (which they have zero authority to do) and then said "Your taillights are out. Your papers please."
Do continue with the strawman.
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Good! Illegal aliens shouldn’t get credit from any source. They’re bad risks, especially if they get deported…
You don't have to be an illegal alien to want to keep ICE/Border patrol from knowing things about you. They're a threat to everybody.
They’re a threat to those fearing deportation or arrest for criminal activity. If you’re not in those categories, you have exactly nothing to worry about.
I’m a lot more worried about the giant NSA data centers like the one in Utah, funded under prior administrations. Those are definitely warehousing wide-ranging data about all Americans (and others), harvested right off the Internet backbone…
> If you’re not in those categories, you have exactly nothing to worry about.
From what I've seen, this just isn't true. Anyone who isn't visibly licking their boots is at risk.
Oh yes, we definitely don't have news or straight up video of people who are regular citizens getting killed for no reason by ICE or even non-citizens getting effectively executed without trial.
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