First you try to record the ICE officers, then the ICE officers pepper spray you, then Alex Pretti steps in, then they tackle him, take his gun, and murder him in cold blood.
Then the feds grab the evidence to make sure the investigation has as little to go on as humanly possible.
Then why prevent the investigation? It's standard procedure when a cop kills someone and the courts are notoriously deferential to the police. ICE is speaking with actions, and those actions say they can't even begin to make the case that Pretti had murderous intent.
It's also obvious to anyone who has seen the recordings. Which is why ICE is so hell-bent on stopping recordings.
That's alright, I've been counting them myself to keep track, since I knew other sources of the data would eventually disappear. So far, eight people have been deported.
> I've been counting them myself to keep track, since I knew other sources of the data would eventually disappear. So far, eight people have been deported.
If only 8 people have been deported so far that would mean American children would make up half of your list. Just in 2025 50,000 people were deported to Guatemala alone (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNICf0Nd3BM)
I don't think this will have the effect that the administration thinks it will.
People aren't ignoring all of the things they have been up to. They're keeping track, regardless of the data that the government puts out.
Still, the administration thinks people will just forget. In their minds, it will all simmer down, and since they now control the government, they can avoid consequences from voters and from the courts.
The problem is, history shows that there are worse things for those who abuse human rights than losing elections or facing trial. It would be better for them - and the country - if they kept the data open, disciplined the officers who can't abide by basic professional standards, and re-evaluated their approach.
Four of the five largest protests in American history have been against this administration. None them have involved 3.5% of all 330+ million of us, but people haven't been "ignoring it and doing nothing" either.
Voting:
"When you think of it, we shouldn't even have an election" - Trump [0]
The Safeguard American Voter Eligibility Act, which Trump has been throwing fits about Congress not passing [1]
Memes:
Admittedly, this one's far looser, as it's local law enforcement doing the arrest, not the federal government, but "Tennessee man jailed over anti-Trump meme suing sheriff, county" [2] It would be interesting to see if the sheriff was contacted by federal law enforcement over the post.
This one's not as loose, as the federal government is trying to uncover the identity of a Reddit poster who has criticized ICE [3]
Jokes:
Suspension of Jimmy Kimmel Live! after host's monologue [4]
Public meetings:
National Security Presidential Memorandum-7 [5], though that links to a much larger collection of information on Trump's actions directed at civil society.
That is weak evidence that the administration is "focused on removing" memes, jokes, voting, public meetings, etc. The SAVE act can arguably be seen as increasing confidence in our elections by adopting standard practices from developed democracies worldwide.
We’ll see. Depends on the primaries. Institutional dems have a pitiful track record on holding people accountable. I expect we’ll see a lot of reaching across the isle and ‘moving forwards, not dwelling on the past’.
You see this very often, these kinds of things keep escalating and with the destruction of the rule of law and the need to suck up to an executive a country basically becomes a black hole for investors.
Every time the chain of evil is allowed to persist it corrupts a widening tranche of people and the inertia for compromise just increases until sudden system collapse.
It's just normal error propagation in the network. Only taking ethics and morality seriously at the grass roots level can stop this, but people have gone absolutely wacky for ingroup and apocalyptic thinking and the lie "everyones doing this" has been really pushed hard as a thought stopper.
imagine what this looks like in three more years by 2029, 1000 more days
they are lying more and more to courts, they immediately move people out of state at great expense to prevent lawyers from access
we only know of the warehouse prisons they gave up on, there are likely many moving forward or already exist in secret buried inside military bases without press or congressional access
if the Dems don't win the Senate the country is done, House is not enough, House will just be a dog-and-pony show since they have no enforcement powers
Of course. Think of the chil... no, it's a matter of natio... no. Hrm .. well we have nothing to hide! Same as you, yet you keep your doors locked and bank account hidden!
First you try to record the ICE officers, then the ICE officers pepper spray you, then Alex Pretti steps in, then they tackle him, take his gun, and murder him in cold blood.
Then the feds grab the evidence to make sure the investigation has as little to go on as humanly possible.
Now this.
The information lockdown continues apace.
He wasn’t murdered. He was prevented from murdering.
Then why prevent the investigation? It's standard procedure when a cop kills someone and the courts are notoriously deferential to the police. ICE is speaking with actions, and those actions say they can't even begin to make the case that Pretti had murderous intent.
It's also obvious to anyone who has seen the recordings. Which is why ICE is so hell-bent on stopping recordings.
Once IDF and US military are mended maybe we can get these ICE officers properly trained.
Yeah ICE sure does need to learn how to target children for murder
https://www.theguardian.com/world/2026/jun/23/israel-deliber...
"Federal Agents Were Told F.B.I. Will No Longer Investigate ICE Confrontations":
* https://archive.is/https://www.nytimes.com/2026/07/19/us/pol...
“For my friends everything, for my enemies the law.” ― Oscar R. Benavides, https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Óscar_R._Benavides#Later_life
that includes if the public shoots them, right?
Same thing happened the last time we went through this circus. I'm only surprised it took this long for them to shut off access.
That's alright, I've been counting them myself to keep track, since I knew other sources of the data would eventually disappear. So far, eight people have been deported.
> I've been counting them myself to keep track, since I knew other sources of the data would eventually disappear. So far, eight people have been deported.
If only 8 people have been deported so far that would mean American children would make up half of your list. Just in 2025 50,000 people were deported to Guatemala alone (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MNICf0Nd3BM)
My apologies, I assumed it was obvious that my comment was a joke.
I don't think this will have the effect that the administration thinks it will.
People aren't ignoring all of the things they have been up to. They're keeping track, regardless of the data that the government puts out.
Still, the administration thinks people will just forget. In their minds, it will all simmer down, and since they now control the government, they can avoid consequences from voters and from the courts.
The problem is, history shows that there are worse things for those who abuse human rights than losing elections or facing trial. It would be better for them - and the country - if they kept the data open, disciplined the officers who can't abide by basic professional standards, and re-evaluated their approach.
Most Americans have been ignoring it and doing nothing.
All the protests to date are still quite far away from the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/3.5%25_rule
Four of the five largest protests in American history have been against this administration. None them have involved 3.5% of all 330+ million of us, but people haven't been "ignoring it and doing nothing" either.
Most Americans feel like there are still other routes to vent frustration. Memes, jokes, voting, public meetings, etc.
The administration seems to be focused on removing these junctures.
do-nothing protests and online means don't claw back any of the money they've stolen, or repair any of the organizational destruction they've done
"daddy what did you do during the erosion of our democracy?"
"we shard some white hot memes with several like minded friends"
Which of those has the administration been focused on removing? I can't think of any.
Well, let's see here:
Voting: "When you think of it, we shouldn't even have an election" - Trump [0]
The Safeguard American Voter Eligibility Act, which Trump has been throwing fits about Congress not passing [1]
Memes: Admittedly, this one's far looser, as it's local law enforcement doing the arrest, not the federal government, but "Tennessee man jailed over anti-Trump meme suing sheriff, county" [2] It would be interesting to see if the sheriff was contacted by federal law enforcement over the post.
This one's not as loose, as the federal government is trying to uncover the identity of a Reddit poster who has criticized ICE [3]
Jokes: Suspension of Jimmy Kimmel Live! after host's monologue [4]
Public meetings: National Security Presidential Memorandum-7 [5], though that links to a much larger collection of information on Trump's actions directed at civil society.
[0] https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2026/01/15/trump-s...
[1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Safeguard_American_Voter_Eligi...
[2] https://augustafreepress.com/news/tennessee-man-jailed-over-...
[3] https://www.engadget.com/social-media/the-us-government-want...
[4] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Suspension_of_Jimmy_Kimmel_Liv...!
[5] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/NSPM-7
That is weak evidence that the administration is "focused on removing" memes, jokes, voting, public meetings, etc. The SAVE act can arguably be seen as increasing confidence in our elections by adopting standard practices from developed democracies worldwide.
We’ll see. Depends on the primaries. Institutional dems have a pitiful track record on holding people accountable. I expect we’ll see a lot of reaching across the isle and ‘moving forwards, not dwelling on the past’.
The Epstein affair was eventually successfully forgotten. I still pretend to be surprised, to keep my decency.
You see this very often, these kinds of things keep escalating and with the destruction of the rule of law and the need to suck up to an executive a country basically becomes a black hole for investors.
Every time the chain of evil is allowed to persist it corrupts a widening tranche of people and the inertia for compromise just increases until sudden system collapse.
It's just normal error propagation in the network. Only taking ethics and morality seriously at the grass roots level can stop this, but people have gone absolutely wacky for ingroup and apocalyptic thinking and the lie "everyones doing this" has been really pushed hard as a thought stopper.
Lets not forget the the FBI recently announced they will no longer investigate any crimes ICE commits.
Then it should be easier to convince a judge the FBI can’t claim jurisdiction over murders for something they admit they won’t investigate.
imagine what this looks like in three more years by 2029, 1000 more days
they are lying more and more to courts, they immediately move people out of state at great expense to prevent lawyers from access
we only know of the warehouse prisons they gave up on, there are likely many moving forward or already exist in secret buried inside military bases without press or congressional access
if the Dems don't win the Senate the country is done, House is not enough, House will just be a dog-and-pony show since they have no enforcement powers
Of course. Think of the chil... no, it's a matter of natio... no. Hrm .. well we have nothing to hide! Same as you, yet you keep your doors locked and bank account hidden!