Regardless of whether this specific claim is true, enterprises are becoming much more cautious about developer tools that can read large portions of proprietary codebases.
Considering their massive distillation, if US companies stop publishing new models to the public, would China still be able to develop new open weight models?
I don't think China would strugle to scrape the internet for fresh data.
And they constantly publish state of the art LLM research (see DS4 context compaction and cache tech).
They have very capable tech giants. So while not being able to distill western models would probably have some impact, it's probably becoming lesser as time passes.
We might even see Western LLMs distilling Chinese models soon. If they aren't already to some extent.
China has most probably already achieved "escape velocity" on the software side. Now if they achieve parity, to some degree at least, on the hardware side with Nvidia it is very possible they'll overtake the US.
Can't say they are wrong, after the latest backdoor, or let's say, undocumented functionality that leaks some data that was pushed in Claude Code few days ago
when i was in hongkong, chatgpt and gemini were disabled. Maybe this has changed though. When I was in China, the corporate vpn (zscaler) routed traffic through hk
Regardless of whether this specific claim is true, enterprises are becoming much more cautious about developer tools that can read large portions of proprietary codebases.
What Claude Code did is absolutely mindboggling tho, if Chinese harness did that probably POTUS would lose sleep.
Exaggerate much? If you think POTUS would lose sleep about a date format timezone marker, I don't know what to tell you.
Considering their massive distillation, if US companies stop publishing new models to the public, would China still be able to develop new open weight models?
I don't think China would strugle to scrape the internet for fresh data.
And they constantly publish state of the art LLM research (see DS4 context compaction and cache tech).
They have very capable tech giants. So while not being able to distill western models would probably have some impact, it's probably becoming lesser as time passes.
We might even see Western LLMs distilling Chinese models soon. If they aren't already to some extent.
China has most probably already achieved "escape velocity" on the software side. Now if they achieve parity, to some degree at least, on the hardware side with Nvidia it is very possible they'll overtake the US.
Yes, 100%. GLM 5.2 is capable of RSI. It's too late to stop.
Can't say they are wrong, after the latest backdoor, or let's say, undocumented functionality that leaks some data that was pushed in Claude Code few days ago
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48759754
That’s not what a backdoor is…
Rear entrance then
When a company can remotely push code without explicit user approval, and code that was hostile / almost malicious, it is a backdoor
i gonna ask: how can they still use claude? i thought all users in china are banned
Alibaba has engineers in Hongkong, Singapore, North America. It’s a global corporation
when i was in hongkong, chatgpt and gemini were disabled. Maybe this has changed though. When I was in China, the corporate vpn (zscaler) routed traffic through hk
Same way every ban is evaded, smurfing
Does Alibaba only have developers in the China?
Did china invent VPNs yet?
There is a reason Singapore tops the rank on Claude usage
the government also actively promotes AI usage in work environments
Cc can be used with non Anthropic models.
> how can they still use claude?
Workarounds aside, it says Claude Code not Claude.
i.e. they are using the CLI running any model. You can for instance run GLM with it.
Another reason to use open source coding agents and local language models.
Claude Code is neither and it is literally info stealing malware.