23 comments

  • joenot443 an hour ago

    This is a great read.

    It would appear https://theeditorial.news is "Under Construction" now. The articles themselves [1] were originally super creepy when you know the entire thing is made up.

    > Michelle Quaid is fifty-two years old, the mother of two grown children, and she began working at the Commercial-News in 1999

    > Quaid wore a polo shirt with the paper's logo — a stylized 'C' — over her heart.

    She's not real! None of it is! Truly bizarre and unnerving. I'd love if we got a follow-up, eventually.

    Why only rural newspapers and South China Sea?

    [1] https://web.archive.org/web/20260629011021/https://theeditor...

    • yousif_123123 an hour ago

      The article from archive you link.. scores as mostly human on GPTZero (I tested a random paragraph). That's the issue I've always seen with AI detectors, they might be able to detect direct LLM output, but if you give an article to an AI and tell it write something made up using that format and make it appear like a real story, the detectors will think its real.

    • b112 40 minutes ago

      You think that's unnerving? Just wait until the mid-terms get fully under motion, nothing is going to compare to the amount of perfect looking BS that will be spread by both parties.

      And yes, I said both.

      Cambridge Analytics is going to seem like a child's toy compared to how targeted, how sophisticated this will be. Why have 20 or 30 stories tailored to specific groups of humans, when you can have stories rendered on the fly for individuals, targetting all their greatest fears and folly.

      I can imagine someone's loved one dying of cancer a month before the election, and both sides using targetted stuff claiming that the other guy actually caused the cancer somehow.

      If there's one thing I've seen in my life, is that there's no such concept as "too low" or "too scummy" for politicians.

      CA was accused to literally causing three civil wars in third world nations. I often wonder, will the US have the honour of being the first in the West to fall apart due to misinformation?

      I really liked some scifi book I read, where the person appointed to be president for 4 years, was determined to hate the very idea of having the job. Didn't want it. Yet was also very driven.

  • spaceman_2020 33 minutes ago

    I constantly wonder what is the societal benefits of AI

    It’s really hard to build a coherent pro-AI argument

    • NortySpock 16 minutes ago

      I find it to be a useful tool for summarizing things, creating examples, and as a tutor for explaining a topic using analogies. Plus it can generate and iterate on code snippets.

      Like, I personally find python pandas documentation unusable because they don't come with examples next to the function definition. (historically at least, maybe they have changed)

      So I was left flailing, trying to cobble something together that was even capable of running without error, much less emitting the output I wanted.

      Now that an LLM has badly-memorized 80% of the documentation and can generate 3 different attempts in 5 seconds, I'm free to focus on the actual problem I am working on rather than guessing at syntax for something I use less than once a week.

      So I see at least the ability to have a on-demand tutor or sounding board, at any time of day, for pennies, to be a boon for anyone who wants to learn a bit or try reaching for something just outside of their current understanding.

    • bwfan123 19 minutes ago

      > It’s really hard to build a coherent pro-AI argument

      agree, given that we have a natural tendency to believe what we read - or only comprehend what we believe [1].

      [1] https://bear.warrington.ufl.edu/brenner/mar7588/Papers/gilbe...

    • Frieren 19 minutes ago

      AI is great at producing low value content. That low value content replaces the high value but high cost one.

      That is horrifying and destroys jobs, removes expertise from the world, and makes our lives worse.

      I do not see how AI could be a net positive either.

    • irishcoffee 12 minutes ago

      AI is like when some fella named Nobel synthesized dynamite. He sure did have good intentions as it relates to safety for workers doing dangerous jobs.

      There is your “pro” argument.

      The “con” argument would be all the other ways dynamite has been twisted and used since.

      This AI stuff is neither good or bad, it is a tool. The people using it are either good or bad.

      • nearlyepic 7 minutes ago

        “drunk driving kills a lot of people, but it also helps a lot of people get to work on time, so it’s impossible to say whether it’s bad or not”

    • vlian2088 18 minutes ago

      >what is the societal benefits of AI

      it will hopefully eviscerate the petite bourgeoisie and the bohemians.

  • zerobees an hour ago

    I remarked a couple of times that the same thing crops up on HN. Many high-ranking blog posts about AI appear AI-generated, and the funny thing is that this holds true not only for pro-AI content, but also for anti-AI posts.

    Ultimately, a lot of topic-du-jour punditry is a hustle for clicks.

  • halestock an hour ago

    This is all depressing but I had to laugh at "Tolliver Chevrolet"

    • DaiPlusPlus 28 minutes ago

      Bobson Dugnutt all over again

  • mwexler an hour ago

    Every time I read a piece from Nieman, it reminds me both of how much we've lost in journalism, but also that there's always hope to swing the pendulum back towards truth (well, more truthiness).

  • gchamonlive 39 minutes ago

    It's becoming self aware, it's looking at itself and it's not liking what it's seeing. What if instead of the hollywoodean view of AI controlled dystopias, this is what we get instead, a big "nope, not gonna do it, sorry, and stop doing that btw, it bothers me".

    Sarcasm aside, I enjoy the irony.

  • yodon an hour ago

    This reads like a nation state driven influence operation focused on feeding propaganda into LLM's and search engines (need to read towards the end to get to that part).

    It's reasonable to expect stories the real local press finds discussion worthy (because they are both false and relevant to the local press) are an effective way of using the local press to throw more link strength at their own site.

  • reedf1 an hour ago

    Wait how many levels deep is this...

  • haritha-j 28 minutes ago

    It would be so meta if this article was AI generated.

  • zzzeek 36 minutes ago

    got a family friend who keeps posting on Facebook big "Fight Datacenters!" photos / posters that are extremely obviously AI generated

    it's quite cringe, like a not-so-subtle troll on the people who share the image

  • franze an hour ago

    hypothesis: connecting an ai autoblogging script to Google Analytics / Google Search Console:

    00 you seed some articles

    10 wait for traffic

    20 bot fetches GA / GSC

    30 bot analysis what works what does not

    40 instructed to create more of what works

    50 more ai slop that works in search / social

    60 Go To 10

    aka a "positive" / unchallenged feedback loop

    content cost dismissible - cents per article

    • ale42 17 minutes ago

      Why do you even need GA? (not sure if it's bot friendly btw) One could just run a local traffic analysis and feed that back into the bot

  • emsign an hour ago

    I herd u dont liek fake news so I put som fake news into ur real news