How to burst the AI bubble: Strike at its roots

(arstechnica.com)

45 points | by 0nce 2 hours ago ago

24 comments

  • cryo32 an hour ago

    Just wait for the economics to catch up and eat the marketing. No effort required.

    • dgellow an hour ago

      Though, the larger the bubble becomes the more damaging the pop will be

      • jgalt212 42 minutes ago

        That's my real fear, that I have massive indirect AI bubble exposure while having zero direct exposure. Similar to how relatively few Americans had liar loans, but we all got burned by the subprime crisis. And then there were those bad actors that made the crisis work for them, and we got burned again during the uneven recovery.

  • alansaber 31 minutes ago

    I've been enjoying the industrial revolution parallels. Have the economics of bespoke products changed? Not really. But is it now easier to get a crude, but functional, approximation of an idea? Yes. The main issue appears to be users conflating B for A (and not realising their AI creation is fundamentally a mess).

  • cedws 2 hours ago

    The “reverse centaur” is a natural product of capitalism wanting workers to be as replaceable as possible in order to drive down wages. An ordinary “centaur” is counter to companies’ goals, they don’t want workers empowered.

    • RealityVoid an hour ago

      If that is true, they are incredibly stupid. Empowered workers create better, more effective companies.

      • ramon156 42 minutes ago

        But they also create workers that can hop off the ship. If they're on a sinking one, they have no choice but to work hard to get back to shore.

        • RealityVoid 36 minutes ago

          > But they also create workers that can hop off the ship.

          Sounds to me like a win for the workers, a win for the employer(in that they get better companies) and a win for society at large.

      • watwut 36 minutes ago

        I don't think CEO class want better, more effective companies. They have nothing to gain by that. They want monopoly situation for themselves, locked customers and helpless dependent employees.

        • alansaber 35 minutes ago

          It depends but obviously they want both, both control and value.

    • jgalt212 38 minutes ago

      As a business owner I assure you I am not overly obsessed with labor costs. I obsess on all costs, and all revenues. VC funded and public companies may or may not take a similarly holistic view.

  • gsky an hour ago

    AI spending is all what keeping american economy afloat or else a big recession

  • spwa4 28 minutes ago

    "If that’s the case, AI will let them wire the toy steering wheel directly into the drivetrain. So you can have an amazing idea as a corporate visionary, and you don’t have to have any ego-shattering confrontations with people who know how to do things, who tell you you’re actually an idiot"

    Just beautiful.

  • feverzsj an hour ago

    It's kinda too big to fail in US now. If it bursts, US will decline quickly.

    • nixon_why69 40 minutes ago

      It's not, though. The banking system holds onto everyone's money in a fractional reserve system, if you let a run on the banks happen everyone's money is gone. That's "too big to fail".

      If anthropic and openAI fail, the top 10% lose half their money in a stock sell-off. That's perfectly tolerable. Maybe congress bails them out anyways but they don't have to.

  • vkou an hour ago

    > “The bubble doesn’t want cheap useful things,” Doctorow said. “It wants expensive ‘disruptive’ things

    That about sums it up. I challenge anyone to name five things that have gotten cheaper or better in their life thanks to AI.

    I can't think of anything that I consume that has gotten better, and the only thing that has gotten cheaper is the value of your skills to your employer, as it wants you to offload more of your work to a machine they own or rent. But perhaps someone here can find some tangible improvement.

    • samvher 37 minutes ago

      Interesting challenge.

      1 - I worked abroad and wasn't really familiar with the systems there. Gemini made me aware of a kind of pension account that I could withdraw from when I left the country netting me a few thousand dollars.

      2 - Working as a tech contractor, charging by deliverable, Codex/Claude Code speed me up and it doesn't seem to have significantly dropped rates in the market.

      3 - Also contractor related: I had Claude do a quick legal sanity check of my contracts, and it warned me of some clauses that I'd be better off removing/changing/refining. I was not aware of these nuances and would not have paid a lawyer for this as the contract was too small, but the changes were accepted by the client and reduced my risk exposure meaningfully.

      4 - Learning a foreign language, I use it to check my draft emails and messages. It corrects them but also serves a tutoring role providing feedback, improving both the accuracy of my communication and my rate of language acquisition.

      5 - Gemini Deep Research helped me narrow down tent models that met my fairly specific set of requirements. Very happy with the tent I ended up buying, from a brand that was not on my radar before.

  • dude250711 2 hours ago

    Bubbles do not have roots.

    • chrisweekly 26 minutes ago

      I agree the mixed metaphor and grammar are a bit awkward, but "its" refers to AI, innit?

  • pydry an hour ago

    The bubble is weirdly being kept alive by the promise it can replace software developers, which is ironic because all it has really achieved is a deluge of slop.

    Social media has also gone utterly crazy. The last time I saw a gaslighting operation on this scale and volume (including accounts who "hate" AI "because its so scary good") was during the start of the Gaza war.

    These accounts becoming easier to distinguish too, because whether they boost AI or feign criticism they all categorically refuse to use the s word.

    I guess there is a few trillion riding on perpetuating this mass psychosis so it makes sense they'd try to use every trick to keep it going as long as possible.

    Internet bubble was nothing like this. The scale is greater, the promises are more insane and the pop is going to be much more devastating.

    • xnx an hour ago

      > The bubble is weirdly being kept alive by the promise it can replace software developers

      And lawyers, and doctors, and tax preparers, and financial managers...

    • jappgar 12 minutes ago

      > refuse to use the s word

      strike?