MSG Made Dossier on Activists Who Opposed Facial Recognition

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120 points | by cdrnsf 2 hours ago ago

17 comments

  • xrd an hour ago

    Please watch/listen to the Pablo Torre podcast about this one for additional context:

    https://www.pablo.show/p/inside-james-dolans-deep-state?utm_...

    If you don't know, Pablo recently won a Pulitzer for his reporting on Steve Balmer's deal with Ascension. If you listened only to mainstream media, you would think "Poor Steve, he was duped!" But, Pablo's reporting might change your opinion on that one.

    The incredible volume of high quality, well researched shows are so refreshing as an antidote to Joe Rogan and Theo Vaughn, who seem to come into every interview with just the right amount of ignorance to let every guest spew whatever propaganda they want. Pablo never lets that happen.

    • zulux 36 minutes ago

      Aspiration?

  • emsign 4 minutes ago

    List of Honor. I'm grateful these brave people exist.

  • adolph an hour ago

      In each section, the document includes background information on the 
      activist, their contact information if available, their social media handles 
      and follower count, then quotes each have previously said about MSG’s facial 
      recognition program. 
    
    This seems like a pretty normal thing to do. If anything its kind of quaint to see “Facial Recognition Activists.docx” . . . in a folder named “Activists" instead of plugging it into a repurposed CRM with built-in social media monitoring, or maybe an electronic Evidence Board in Foundry to tie back EFF donations to season ticket holders of various things. Maybe they do all that too, or maybe the event venue management doesn't care that much.
    • 2d8a875f-39a2-4 35 minutes ago

      Yeah, not much to see here. Each of the activists named likely had a similar "dossier" on MSG and the Dolan guy. Knowledge workers are going to practise knowledge management. People use to do this with a Rolodex.

    • esseph 17 minutes ago

      > This seems like a pretty normal thing to do.

      That is NOT normal.

    • Catloafdev 23 minutes ago

      Crazy to see this attempt to be normalized here.

      No. No, this is not normal.

      • smallerize 19 minutes ago

        People are making a concerted effort to force your business to do something, and you don't want to know their names or how much influence they actually have?

    • GuinansEyebrows an hour ago

      > This seems like a pretty normal thing to do

      sorry to the rest of the esteemed hn community for the low-effort reply, but... gross.

      • zulux 34 minutes ago

        We have a document detailing our competitors. So I guess I have to ask...

        Am I normal?

        • ramon156 23 minutes ago

          Do those documents detail personal information, like face identification, family, etc.?

          Its usually about the company, not the individual

        • chasd00 16 minutes ago

          when i'm doing large presentations to prospective clients my company gives me what they call a "look book". This is a deck with information about every person in the audience all the way down to personality traits, triggering words/phrases, and negotiating style. I think it's pretty normal.

        • esseph 15 minutes ago

          Some of you run in dark circles, and this is coming from a guy who got paid to kill people.

    • 1attice an hour ago

      "Normal" here requires a time bound. I would say it's pretty abnormal if the window is "the last thirty years", and pretty normal if it's "the last thirty days."

      Because of the thing.

      • wbl 43 minutes ago

        Dolan is known for being extra petty.

  • nla 24 minutes ago

    In NYC, you can trespass anyone from a private business at any time and for no reason at all.

    NY Penal Law § 140.00 says a person in premises open to the public is there with license/privilege unless they defy a lawful order not to enter or remain, personally communicated by the owner or another authorized person.

    So, in plain English:

    “You have to leave. You are not allowed back.”

    The owner does not need to say: “You have to leave because…”

    There was a ton of hoopla around this when Radio City and MSG trespassed lawyers that were suing the company and venues.

    Everyone was up in arms and nothing happened.

    • dec0dedab0de 15 minutes ago

      i don’t think anyone is claiming it is illegal