38 comments

  • mikeocool 34 minutes ago

    I apparently use Claude differently the most people who talk about using Claude on the internet.

    I’ll typically have a bunch of short sessions over the course of a day. Anytime I start a task that isn’t going to very directly benefit from the existing context I start fresh.

    I don’t find a lot of benefit in explaining the project overall to Claude — I’ve deleted a lot of that explanation from my Claude.md because it didn’t seem to impact much.

    I typically start a task by pointing it to 1-2 files and giving it some explanation of what I want done, and it figures it out.

    Basically never hit context window limits or compactions, and can’t remember the last time I hit a 5 hour or a weekly limit.

    • majormajor 7 minutes ago

      I do something similar. I've recently started having a few "starting point" files to re-explain common context (less than thirty lines per markdown file, usually) that I can point the agent at at the start of a new session, each tightly scoped to a certain domain and/or task type. That's been nice to avoid repeating myself, without the side-tracking or over-aggressive biasing-towards-previous-conversations that I've seen happen if I use long sessions or let it try to decide on its own what to pull in from larger files or trees of files. Sometimes I'll tell it to update that file based on new info from a current task, but I keep tight control over what gets pulled into task start context.

      They aren't really "explaining the project" either, but more module- or task-specific preferences, hand reference pointers, or other things like "there are mixed examples of how to do certain things in this project, prefer X to Y." I use a write-everything-twice approach. After I find myself having to correct an implementation because it didn't figure out one of these things on its own from the existing code, I'll add an entry. That also avoids bloating things with "I think this is relevant" compared to "I have noticed that this is necessary."

      I keep doing this because it lets me experiment with different approaches to problems without risk of it fixating on things from a previous abandoned attempt, and particularly because sometimes I'm wrong and I haven't found the agent harnesses particularly reliable at taking my word for it from a POV of "yes I know I said we need xyz earlier, but let's please entirely forget about that."

  • serial_dev 2 hours ago

    I might be missing out on something but I never had to explain my project. Just give it a task, or if you really want to, type it quickly, then you are good to go.

    I can’t imagine this being worth optimizing. The issue is never that Claude can’t figure out what the projects is about…

    Am I missing something or does this project not solve a problem most regular people have?

    • suprjami an hour ago

      There are many other posts here which agree with you. Filling context with what you think the model needs adds nothing and possibly just inflates context which is harmful.

      A good method seems to be only make a skill or memory when the LLM gets something wrong, or if you actually observe it's always doing the same step and you can get the model to the same place with less tokens.

      • chatmasta an hour ago

        I’ve basically never edited a skill or memory myself. I make the LLM do it as part of the /handoff skill before I clear a session. That also includes pruning existing skills/memories and resolving any drift.

        Even the /handoff skill was written by the model…

        • airstrike 30 minutes ago

          It's funny because with so many different implementations of /handoff, I wonder if anyone has benchmarked handoff-and-resume to figure out what the best performance implementation looks like.

          I also imagine that varies by model.

    • airstrike 31 minutes ago

      Depending on the scale of the project and the complexity of the specific thing you need to work on, it's advantageous to bring specific context into the session instead of hoping the model will connect the right dots.

    • torben-friis 30 minutes ago

      I guess that depends on the kind of project, how common the intent is, how self contained, etc.

  • SubiculumCode 2 hours ago

    Sometimes its good to start fresh. LLMs need large context restart's sometimes so they can better identify holes that they become blind to.

    • derwiki 2 hours ago

      Back in the human age of coding, I felt the same way sometimes

  • rabbitlord 11 minutes ago

    With all due respect, this github repo looks really like an AI-generated project.

  • gman83 27 minutes ago
  • coherentpony 20 minutes ago

    My employer is counting token usage, so explaining my project between tokens isn’t necessarily a bad thing. I am clearly a more productive engineer because of it \end{sarcasm}

  • intothemild an hour ago

    I think the majority here have stated the same... That CLAUDE.md or AGENTS.md effectively do this. Either that or the readme.

    The only tip I can give is that your skill that builds or wraps up work. You should have it update those files if anything has changed.

    Claude/Agents files shouldn't be bloated, but should imho act as a basic amount of context on the project so your agent and skills can pick up and go, with even the most basic initial prompt.

    • devmor an hour ago

      > The only tip I can give is that your skill that builds or wraps up work. You should have it update those files if anything has changed.

      Depending on the scope of work you’re doing, it might be better to have this removed from the context of the work that was done.

      I keep a “Last Updated Hash” in my md and every so often will have the LLM pull a diff from that hash to the current head, then determine what doesn’t match.

  • comrade1234 2 hours ago

    IntelliJ handles this for you. Basically it sends half your project to Claude even if you're asking some question about Star Wars.

    • lxgr 2 hours ago

      > IntelliJ handles this for you. Basically it sends half your project to Claude

      Not sure I’d call that “stopping wasting my tokens”.

      • comrade1234 2 hours ago

        Yeah but it could have sent the other half of the project too.

  • tt_dev 2 hours ago

    How does this beat a Session specific README?

  • reckless 2 hours ago

    Doesn't Claude have memories like Codex?

  • gste an hour ago

    CLAUDE.md is already a good system for context window management for all the same reasons that version control management of code is good.

    And keeping a local copy of everything you ever told Claude in your context window is bad for the same reasons keeping a local copy of your code called My_Code_v3_final.zip is bad.

  • cadamsdotcom an hour ago

    Exciting to see hooks used for automation.

    But if I may, the need to manually update the context is a huge hurdle.

    Automation like this is limited unless no human has to remember it. So perhaps you can save context during the PreCompact and Stop hooks.

  • giancarlostoro 2 hours ago

    I never have to because I use a ticketing system the model goes through in addition to a CLAUDE.md file with a summary, including vision, goals, non-goals etc

    • petee an hour ago

      Any tricks to get Claude to actually use the CLAUDE.md consistently? Many times now its completely ignored it, despite being short, concise + generated by Claude itself, and I see bug reports about this that are over a year old

      • devmor an hour ago

        Check out your session logs and review what is actually in the context window. I’m willing to bet that your CLAUDE.md is sitting close to the middle of everything in there. The current gen of frontier models tends to heavily weight the start and end of the current context so heavily that anything partway through may just be ignored.

    • stymaar 2 hours ago

      If it goes through all of it all the time, then it fits the “wasting token” description.

    • dizhn 2 hours ago

      Anything in particular? Paca? I used forgejo for a while and it was OK.

  • dools 2 hours ago

    If I need context for a session then that is output from a previous session, otherwise I find any “memory” functionality cumbersome.

    I saw /graphify recently which cuts down on exploration cost and seems more appealing (although I haven’t tried it yet)

  • alansaber 2 hours ago

    Nothing wrong with a toy project.

  • drivebyhooting an hour ago

    Why would you want a simple summarizer instead of frontier AI doing the summarization for you?

    • iwontberude an hour ago

      Bc frontier models are expensive and summarization is basic af

      • drivebyhooting 44 minutes ago

        Compaction already drops nuanced and salient information. I wouldn’t want any additional amnesia from overly simplistic summarization.

  • zihotki 2 hours ago

    Are there any benchmarks/evals to back the claims? Or how do you know that it helps reducing waste?

    • jvidalv an hour ago

      They don’t. It’s all based on FOMO. Like superpowers, the more the better.

      My advice: the best claude is the raw claude, with some custom tailored skills. That’s it, no plugins.

  • hbarka 2 hours ago

    Willing to try this but the author missed that Claude also has memory.md

  • dimitrios1 2 hours ago

    The question I find myself asking very often these days: Is this better than asking claude to do the same things the plugin/repo does?

  • johnwheeler an hour ago

    How is this different than just using a resume?