Show HN: Garden of Flowers – an archive of pictorial typography before ASCII art

(garden-of-flowers.heikkilotvonen.com)

130 points | by california-og 14 hours ago ago

21 comments

  • quakeguy 22 minutes ago

    Very nice, i have a book in my library which you’ll find interesting.

    Jeremy Adler and Ulrich Ernst

    Text als Figur

    https://www.amazon.de/Text-als-Figur-Visuelle-Moderne/dp/352...

    It is full of pictures like you have collected.

    Example:

    https://imgur.com/a/mWL4kSs

    Sadly it seems this book is rather rare.

  • contingencies 13 minutes ago

    I noticed Asia is severely underrepresented. This is normal in western collections, but there are exceptions. You should find great examples from China, Iran, pre-colonial India, Japan, and Vietnam. Some potential leads on works you haven't catalogued: (1) The collection search site for the Dutch 'Wereldmuseum' in Rotterdam, which houses the state collection (they were the first to Japan). (2) The same for Lisbon's Museu do Oriente. (3) International Dunhuang Project, affiliated with the British Library, which has scanned some of the earliest printed works in Asia with a good digital catalogue, some of which have graphic elements. (4) Musee Guimet, Paris. (5) The Print and Graphic Communication Museum in Lyon. (6) The National Technical Museum in Prague (great printing and photography holdings). (7) Asian art auction records. (8) Should you broaden to sculpture, many of the great Buddhist and Hindu carved stone monuments incorporate text with their form elements, though generally not integrally. (9) Chinese folk arts of paper-cut, embroidery (upholstery/cloth/fashion) and new year folk printed door poster art probably have some exceptional examples.

  • BugsJustFindMe 4 hours ago

    Hey, this archive you've put together is extremely impressive. How did you find all of these? Literally keyword search on digital collections?

    • california-og 2 hours ago

      Thank you! It has taken me a long time. The two main methods:

      1. Text content search with keywords/sentences or people's names. This is the best way, but finding good keywords is hard. 2. Randomly browsing, especially typography trade journals. Internet Archive has all issues of Inland Printer for example. Reading through them I've found many new pictures and keywords to do further searches on.

  • efitz 13 hours ago

    You should look at some Arabic calligraphy- there is a lot of artistic Arabic calligraphy where passages from the Quran, poetry, and other text are written beautifully as art.

    • efitz 13 hours ago

      BTW sorry for my rudeness, I find your project very cool and I love calligraphic type projects. I was so excited that I wanted to share something related to you. :-)

      • california-og 13 hours ago

        Heh no worries and thanks! I love Arabic/Islamic calligraphy too, but I've had to leave out all calligraphic forms of text art (calligrammes, micrography, carmina figurata, 17th century european calligraphic art, etc..) out of the archive to keep the scope of the project focused and clear. Otherwise it would take me another 8 years :)

        However, there's some arabic letterpress stuff in the archive! https://garden-of-flowers.heikkilotvonen.com/?filters=arabic I hope to find more, especially the kufic style, but I haven't found many good sources for that kind of stuff yet.

  • Aardwolf 9 hours ago

    > https://garden-of-flowers.heikkilotvonen.com/?page=LKBGE51F3...

    Wow this is awesome, they had box-drawing characters in 1785!

  • softgrow 12 hours ago

    At school studying typing there was a class of 66 all manual typewriters except for the two electrics. If you were good and had some spare time, you were given printed instructions to type particular characters and returns. Sometimes shift into red ink. Do it properly and you got an image. So maybe pre ASCII art?

  • kevinmiller452 10 hours ago

    Love this. The 18th century type specimens are gorgeous and it's amazing you pulled them from old digitized books. Do you have plans to add any interactive features like zoom on the images?

    • california-og 9 hours ago

      Thank you! If you click on the images, you get a zoomable, full resolution view.

  • una_usta 11 hours ago

    This is awesome! A few months ago I got a tattoo of one of the flowers from https://garden-of-flowers.heikkilotvonen.com/?page=LKBGE51F3...

    I’ve been variously told it looks like the sun, a hedgehog, and a lion & I’m kind fond of all those descriptions

  • frmfrm 11 hours ago

    Absolutely incredible, thank you for making this!

  • frmfrm 11 hours ago

    Would love to suggest having a way to get the whole archive and metadata to browse locally or mirror, perhaps via a torrent?

  • arrowassassin 2 hours ago

    Nice

  • DonHopkins 5 hours ago

    So EBCDIC art?

  • mujib77 14 hours ago

    Unique idea looks good

  • phyzix5761 13 hours ago

    Very cool

  • faddy67 12 hours ago

    damn amazing