I Think They [Anthropic] Are Lying to You [video]

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43 points | by salutis 2 hours ago ago

23 comments

  • orangebread 42 minutes ago

    I think this guy is using AI differently than me. Since Opus 4.6 and GPT 5.3, I have been able to absolutely crush my coding work. Boris might be embellishing how he ONLY writes loops, but for the most part I am just handing off planning docs to Claude or GPT and they implement it with like 95% accuracy.

    A lot of you don't want to hear it but this is a user issue.

    • taurath 2 minutes ago

      Sorry, but context rot is real, and I’d be curious how your code is playing out in the real world. Is it shipping? Is it a known product with stable docs? Is it greenfield?

      Aspects of coding are faster certainly, but oh gosh can it get very wrong very fast when things go sideways, and with everyone using it, the chaos factor compounds into a near halt.

    • nitwit005 18 minutes ago

      He's discussing Anthropic struggling to fix an issue with their own product. He's not the one struggling.

    • bag_boy 18 minutes ago

      Can you give me your use case here? I have not gotten around to trying loops in Claude code but have started to notice the hype.

    • thraway3837 20 minutes ago

      Yup. The only caveat I'd add is that I'm using an alternate account to agree with people who say that AI coding has been amazing, because there is a seemingly a good chunk of people who dislike it and it will be met with downvotes. Also because my real account has my real name in the profile along with projects I work on, and a simple search could reveal my pro-AI coding views and these same folks who downvote could also be a future interviewer.

      I think the world changed. And it's changed for the good. AI is a tool, and we should not be afraid of this tool for the coding world. I am only speaking about coding, I'm not speaking about other uses of AI, just so that we're clear on the scope of what I mean by good change.

      For the first time, I see people who had all these ideas finally bring them to reality and watch it blossom. They wanted to build something to share with their communities, but the walls were too high. Too much gatekeeping. Too much of thinking that programming was a task for the elite few and not for the masses. Along the way, we all forgot that we build tools for people. And having an additional tool help us make better tools for people is a win. Just below this comment, I see people talking about dementia, "lots more generated code, almost all of it garbage", "future where garbage software".

      I think the only delusional ones are the idea that humans were better at coding. Have you never had to work on an older project? One that you did not have to start fresh on? Or did you come into either one and go "wow, this is perfect! everything is so beautiful!" Do you seriously consider your fresh project (that didn't use AI) to be the best most perfect beautiful code ever?

      The fact is that nobody cares. People want to use good things and have fun with their lives. They're not worried about whether you wrote a method that parses some strings beautifully or did it with a one-liner. That never mattered, and I think a lot of you can't let go of that world view change and instead lash out at people who simply embrace that programming was simply a tool, not some elite special skill. And we're going back to those beliefs. It's done. It's over. Get over it.

      • zingababba 9 minutes ago

        Well said. Most of my career I made a trade-off and that trade-off was that I would much rather spend my free time outside in nature than on implementing my wild ideas which I always recognized would take considerable time. I'd maybe take 1% of my ideas anywhere. Now I can play with ideas while I'm out on the trail and turn those into something I can test within a couple hours, it's the most fun I've had on computers since the very beginning.

  • bitwize 2 hours ago

    Pretty much the same point I made: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48403908

    Their apparent inability to get the basics right makes me severely doubt their claims of self-improving AI. The humans at Anthropic wouldn't know improvement if it landed on their lap and started twerking, and AI cannot do a job without strong human intervention into what the goals and guardrails actually are.

    I'm kind of reminded of when Microsoft claimed it took a team of Ph.D.s to write a terminal application that updated at 60fps, and then Casey Muratori did it over a weekend. And this was before AI was writing code in earnest; when LLM-induced brainrot really sets in, civilization is in for a world of fresh hurt: lots more generated code, almost all of it garbage. And the promised AI crossover point where it becomes AGI, or indistinguishable from for software design purposes, recedes into the infinite future.

    • andrei_says_ an hour ago

      Reading this it occurs to me that this timeline may be moving toward a future where garbage software, garbage information etc. have become the norm for so long that the number of people who can distinguish trash from quality, or signal from noise, has become negligible.

      A true era of ignorance, looking like an ocean of nonsense in which no one can really navigate as it is ungrounded in reality.

      Idiocracy presents a naively gentle positive version of such future but there are many darker ones possible.

      Kali Yuga, indeed.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kali_Yuga

      • Retric 7 minutes ago

        Customers abandon companies that fail.

        Remember how they used Brando to water plants and it kills them? Eventually mistakes break critical systems and you fail. That’s why free markets work better than planned economies long term, governments can cause more damage doing stupid things than companies due to competition.

      • _doctor_love 5 minutes ago

        The pralaya is not far away. Soon Shiva will begin his dance. I give us until 2036.

      • Papazsazsa 26 minutes ago

        Ignorance is too generous a word. This is epistemic collapse.

    • wasabinator an hour ago

      Agreed. Watch for a rise in cases of early onset dementia over the next few decades.

      • gdjdhdheb an hour ago

        No, we'll just find harder problems.... Coding is boring now

    • Jblx2 an hour ago

      "The Feeling of Power" by Arthur C. Clarke

    • panarky 38 minutes ago

      I watched the video and I wish I could get those 13 minutes of my life back.

      He could have done it in 13 seconds instead of 13 minutes: "Anthropic is lying about the effectiveness of agentic loops because there's this one screen flicker bug in Claude Code that took a year to fix."

      Yeah, like when United Airlines claims a plane can fly 300 people 6,000 miles they are lying to you.

      I can prove they're lying to you because people have been complaining about uncomfortable seats and flight delays for literally decades and those issues still aren't fixed.

      • Retric 2 minutes ago

        The lie is coding is solved, the proof is they had an outstanding coding issue they where working on for over a year while saying coding is solved.

    • ai_slop_hater an hour ago

      Pretty much the same point I made https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48500537

    • rvz an hour ago

      > I'm kind of reminded of when Microsoft claimed it took a team of Ph.D.s to write a terminal application that updated at 60fps, and then Casey Muratori did it over a weekend.

      This is the same Microsoft that is now rewriting the TypeScript type checker, parser and its developer tools in Go after realizing that the bottleneck was...the performance of TypeScript itself, which is a basic compiled vs interpreted difference.

      > And this was before AI was writing code in earnest; when LLM-induced brainrot really sets in, civilization is in for a world of fresh hurt: lots more generated code, almost all of it garbage.

      Some folks using LLMs wouldn't realize why it makes zero sense to use TS / JS for building performant and optimal applications. This is why people were experiencing significant rendering bugs in terminal apps (they are not designed for that) and slow starts with Claude Code, which was completely vibe coded with Ink.

      If you don't understand the basic fundamentals of what you are working on with LLMs and bugs are creeping up left and right, then you are just sinking in your own comprehension debt.

  • nhinck2 10 minutes ago

    I mean you can go through Boris' history here on hn to see he is a liar.

  • antonvs an hour ago

    It goes beyond lying. It's kind of war, and they're the aggressor.

    Everyone else needs to start treating them that way, or you're going to regret it once you realize what's actually happening.

    • phendrenad2 an hour ago

      Please please tell us so we're prepared. sad puppy eyes

  • ggm 33 minutes ago

    We've reached peak stupidity when a supposedly reasoned case about "AI bad" has to be proffered .. in video.

    If you want my attention tonight, surely then "put more effort in" applies here too?

    I was a low bar target: I already think AI coding is a mistake. But I want to read about it. Not listen to it with megabits of associated video I don't want to watch either.

    Tag as "rage bait" and move on I did not like, I did not subscribe.