Why are cells small?

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150 points | by mailyk 15 hours ago ago

68 comments

  • dennyabraham 7 hours ago

    Aside from the anthropocentric view that cells are relatively small because we are made of many of them, the increases in size of lifeforms past that of individual cells is a matter of exceeding thermodynamic and informational limits. I highly recommend the book _The Vital Question_ as an intro to the systemic view of this kind of biological complexification

  • myrmidon an hour ago

    Nice article! There is another interesting perspective:

    Anything selfreplicating kinda needs to be as small as possible (compared to the smallest internal mechanisms required), otherwise the replication time grows out of control: Consider a 3D printer that can fully selfreplicate by depositing individual molecules: If this was the size of a regular printer, the replication time would be hopelessly long (>billion years even if it could deposit billions of atoms/s).

    This applies somewhat universally, and is one of the reason why our current industrial tech is so unsuitable for selfreplication: Any "printing" like process (books, metal stamping, lithography) requires internal features that are much smaller than the output it produces.

  • why_at 12 hours ago

    I've recently gotten into microscopy as a hobby and comparing the relative size of microbes is really interesting. There are entire animals (tardigrades for one) which can be smaller than some single celled organisms.

    There are even single celled organisms which will prey upon and eat multicellular animals.

  • purplehat_ 3 hours ago

    On Being the Right Size turned 100 this year. It's not entirely the same topic as this essay, but this reminded me of it and it's a pretty famous short essay that's worth reading if you haven't seen it.

    https://teaching.hkaiser.org/fall2025/csc7103/course/papers/... (PDF 50 KB, 5 pages essay + 3 pages commentary)

  • gkoenig 2 hours ago

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    Thanks for the good work

  • Terr_ 13 hours ago

    Reminds me of: "Gravity plays a role in keeping cells small" [0]

    [0] https://www.princeton.edu/news/2013/10/24/gravity-plays-role...

  • Imnimo 13 hours ago

    This reminds me also of this paper: https://www.pnas.org/doi/pdf/10.1073/pnas.1115585109

    "The allocation of all metabolic resources to maintenance purposes limits the size of the smallest prokaryotes and largest unicellular eukaryotes, whereas an inability to meet the ever-increasing biosynthesis rates limits the largest prokaryotes and smallest unicellular eukaryotes. Metabolic constraints for larger eukaryotes are relieved by alternative reproductive strategies and multicellularity."

    • RataNova 4 hours ago

      That framing makes the article feel even more interesting, because it's not just "cells are small because diffusion gets slow". There's also an energy budget behind it

  • chasil 15 hours ago
    • DaveSchmindel 14 hours ago

      > Cell sizes are not fixed, however, even within a single species. Cells often swell as they increase their production of proteins and metabolites in preparation for division. This is in line with biology’s only rule: namely, there are exceptions to every rule!

      > Case in point: a giant bacterium called Thiomargarita magnifica can extend about one centimeter in length, so large that it can be seen by the naked eye. It does so by breaking the surface area-to-volume rule, filling between 65–80 percent of its internal volume with an empty vacuole. In other words, it pushes most of its molecules to the cell periphery, thus shortening diffusion distances.

      There is also a captioned image of bubble algae in the post.

      • cwmoore 12 hours ago

        Interesting topology. How empty is the vacuole?

        • trumpdong 8 hours ago

          empty in terms of normal cell components, apparently it stores relatively huge amounts of nitrates that are a necessary energy source for it

      • vasco 11 hours ago

        > This is in line with biology’s only rule: namely, there are exceptions to every rule!

        Nice paradox

    • teravor 11 hours ago

          > The entire cell contains several cytoplasmic domains, with each domain having a nucleus and a few chloroplasts.
      
      it reinvented being multi-cellular
      • api 9 hours ago

        It uses container based virtualization under a single host kernel instead of VM based virtualization.

      • shevy-java 4 hours ago

        Agreed. Humans draw rather arbitrary distinctions. It was quite funny in regards to viruses, aka parasite. Mimivirus are still a parasite, of course, but they even encode genes for metabolic pathways and are larger than some bacteria.

        See:

        "The Mimivirus is a giant virus that infects amoebae and was long considered to be a bacterium due to its size."

        https://pmc.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/articles/PMC9133948/

        Although for me, I always used the definitions through the genetic information available (genome). So as long as a virus still is a parasite, I'd hold up that definition. It will be interesting when viruses are found that are even closer to a cell, e. g. some life cycle where they could switch between parasitism and stand-alone metabolism (or some hybrid in between; I mean if they can encode whole metabolic pathways, at the least some or some parts of it, the threshold here should not be impossible to overcome, and then the whole definition of a virus also has to be adapted since it would no longer make sense).

    • OrderlyTiamat 13 hours ago

      relatedly, foraminifera are single cellular organisms that can grow up to 20 cm! https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Xenophyophorea

    • ssivark 13 hours ago

      Isn't the ovum supposed to be a single cell? Eggs of various species can be substantially larger than this.

      • lmm 10 hours ago

        Yes. I remember reading that Ostrich eggs are the largest single cells (in terms of mass/volume; Blue Whale nerve cells are longer).

    • reubenswartz 8 hours ago

      These both feature large central vacuoles, lending support the thesis of the article that the cubic growth in volume outstrips the quadratic increase in surface area for transferring nutrients and waste across the cell membrane.

    • mr_toad 13 hours ago
    • embedding-shape 14 hours ago

      Those still seem kind of small? Why not the size of an mature olive tree for example? I'm guessing the article may answer this, haven't gotten that far yet.

      • malfist 13 hours ago

        When they invade your saltwater aquarium, you won't think they're small. They can get up just slightly larger than a marble

    • acheron 12 hours ago

      There’s also the one that almost ate the Enterprise. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Immunity_Syndrome_(Star_Tr...

    • shevy-java 4 hours ago

      > largest prokaryote:

      Actually the wikipedia article states:

      "It is the second largest bacterium ever discovered"

      > The largest T. magnifica cell Volland found was 2 centimeters tall

      https://www.science.org/content/article/largest-bacterium-ev...

      Granted, they are grouped both in Thiomargarita. 2cm is pretty gigantic. What I always found more interesting was that they don't merely have just one genome.

    • AgentMasterRace 13 hours ago

      Exactly

  • ablob 12 hours ago

    I feel like keeping the amount of molecules the same within the simulation needs to be justified. How would it look like if the average amount of molecule was the same across a um?

    • RataNova 4 hours ago

      Maybe the better takeaway is not "larger cells can't work" but "larger cells need to pay for increasingly elaborate workarounds"

    • NuclearPM 7 hours ago

      What does amount of molecule mean?

  • socalgal2 14 hours ago

    Cells are small? compared to what? An ostrich egg is a single cell

    • bilsbie 14 hours ago

      I never bought into the egg thing. There’s clearly a distinct cell in the center that’s going to divide and grow inside the egg. The egg itself isn’t undergoing mitosis.

      • al_borland 13 hours ago

        I had to go look this up, as I had heard the egg thing my whole life and just accepted it.

        It turns out the oocyte is the single cell inside the egg, which for birds is significantly larger than a typical cell. So in that respect, the cell in a bird egg is very large. However, compared to the egg itself, it's tiny. The yolk and whites in the egg are all to provide nutrients as it grows, if fertilized.

      • saulpw 14 hours ago

        The yolk is an energy/vitamin source, not a 'cell'. The division happens outside the yolk.

        From Wikipedia:

        > The yolk is not living cell material like protoplasm, but largely passive material

      • ErroneousBosh 13 hours ago

        One of the fascinating things about biology I think is this - that if the cells of your body were the size of an egg, they'd be way, way too big and you'd probably die.

        • trumpdong 8 hours ago

          I also find it interesting that if your spleen were to go prompt critical, it would irradiate you and you'd probably die. That is my favorite fact about nuclear physics.

    • graypegg 14 hours ago

      I don't know for sure here, but isn't the ostrich IN the egg a multicellular animal? I would assume the first point where the egg contains anything that will become the ostrich, mitosis is happening to make more ostrich cells. I'm assuming there's always cell walls and nucleuses every step of the way here, and the egg and ostrich are never just one big cell.

      I could be off base here though, I'm really channeling grade 9 bio class from decades ago!

      • knappa 14 hours ago

        Unfertilized bird eggs are single cells, fertilized eggs should be multicellular by the time they are laid.

      • otherme123 14 hours ago

        The trick is that the egg is a ball with one small cell (the ovum) that happens to have also a huge reservoir of food for the future ostrich. There is a moment when there is only once cell in the egg, just after the fussion of the ovum and the sperm cell.

      • limbero 14 hours ago

        You're correct, but only for fertilized eggs. Unfertilized eggs are single cells.

        • devilbunny 9 hours ago

          Surrounded by a bunch of stuff that isn’t the ovum. “There is at most one cell in an unfertilized bird egg” is not the same as “an unfertilized bird egg is one cell and nothing more”.

    • jackmalpo 14 hours ago

      skeletal muscle cells can be many cm in length

      • otherme123 14 hours ago

        A neuron can be more than 1 meter long in humans, more than 20 meter in a whale.

  • RataNova 4 hours ago

    I like explanations like this because they make biology feel much less arbitrary

    • arc-in-space 4 hours ago

      Am I getting overly paranoid, or does this account look incredibly unnatural?

      • ChrisKnott 3 hours ago

        Yes too much “it’s not X it’s Y”, and too few references to personal actions/biography.

        • lukan 2 hours ago

          I also got curious, this is the most personal comment I could find

          https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44498083

          Funny, but might as well be generic, trained from reddit comments. What a time we live in.

          • nickpp 2 hours ago

            Such sleeper accounts, slowly acquiring clout and time on the platform are often used by botnets. One day they (or their actions) will be sold to the highest bidder to upvote a comment, support an idea, ideology, politician or party or some virtual product, stock or coin.

            • lukan 37 minutes ago

              Possible and that is definitely a thing, but I personally I would not rule out, that there still can be a human behind it, just with that specific style and careful about his privacy.

  • limbero 14 hours ago

    Nitpick maybe, but I don't think oocytes are the largest cells, it pretty much has to be some sort of neuron. A sensory neuron for eg. someplace in the foot will be almost as long as the person is tall, and even if the neuron is extremely thin, it's gotta beat the oocyte for volume.

    • hatthew 14 hours ago

      Some back of the envelope math says this is true. A conservative estimate for the size of an alpha motor neuron axon is 10μm diameter and 1m long, which already puts it over an order of magnitude larger than the 4,000,000µm³ oocyte quoted in the article.

    • CrazyStat 11 hours ago

      Giraffes neurons can be up to 15 feet long. Blue whales are speculated to have neurons up to 100 feet long, though they've never been directly observed (dissected).

    • Kaliboy 9 hours ago

      But neurons are electrical no? I suppose maybe that's why they're not in the comparison.

      Or does that work with diffusion too?

  • gilleain 14 hours ago

    Surface area to volume ratio?

    • dmd 14 hours ago

      That's literally the first thing in the article.

      • gilleain 13 hours ago

        You got me. Usually I read them.

        edit: Huh. Actually not a bad read. It even mentions ' On Growth and Form' which is interesting, if outdated. There are more modern texts like 'Shapes', 'Flow', and 'Branches' by Philip J Ball.

  • kayo_20211030 14 hours ago

    > A simplistic answer is that evolution has made each cell the size best suited to its function.

    Yeah. That's probably it. Really, it probably is the right answer.

    • fluoridation 13 hours ago

      That just kicks the can forward one step. What parameters control the optimal size of a given cell?

      • teravor 11 hours ago

        there is likely evolutionary pressure against large cell size (selfish genes; larger cell takes energy away from replication, provides more opportunity for infiltration by other genes, fewer gene backups in other cells, etc) while occupying a niche puts pressure to be a certain size. it lands somewhere in the middle.

    • taneq 12 hours ago

      Why are things the way they are? Because it works better. Simple, really. :D

  • WorkerBee28474 15 hours ago
  • firefax 10 hours ago

    maybe god is small too?

  • nxy 8 hours ago

    Perhaps cells are small in the first place is for efficiency. It's more efficient to perform a set of tasks with trillions of these cells in unison than one big blob.

  • BurningFrog 9 hours ago

    Cells are small compared to humans because we're made up by around 3×10¹³ cells.