I Still Like Jenkins

(til.andrew-quinn.me)

4 points | by hiAndrewQuinn 10 hours ago ago

9 comments

  • immibis2 9 hours ago

    A GUI that lists all the available options is much more user-friendly than a YAML configuration file where you have to guess them or pore over documentation before starting, but even Jenkinsfile syntax looks better than YAML, and Groovy is a real (edit: realer) language that, in theory, can have things like syntax highlighting and auto-completion.

    • yepyoukno 9 hours ago

      Ugh!

      I knew someone would try to say groovy was a real language.

      I miss the good old days with bash scripts and cron.

      Why must so many diverging environments and tools mingle in our mental space.

      • hiAndrewQuinn 9 hours ago

        You can always just split the difference and call your shell script with

            sh "./whatever.sh"`
        
        if you want in a modern Jenkinsfile. It's really not that big of a deal to avoid Groovy if you truly cannot stand it.

        As for cron, that's also supported out of the box.

            triggers {
                    cron('0 0 * * *')
                }
        
        At that point Jenkins is mostly acting as a nice frontend to all those cronjobs and shell scripts, but at least it keeps records of all the logs etc.
        • tomkarho 3 hours ago

          It's all fun and shells until you start adding parameters especially when those parameters have quotemarks in them. Groovy can get pretty wild with the syntax.

        • yepyoukno 5 hours ago

          Oh brother don’t think I don’t know how to “work around” anyone else’s favorite tool.

          I guess I should be happy it isn’t CA Unicenter.

          • hiAndrewQuinn 4 hours ago

            See it how you wish; but shell script execution was part of Jenkins from day 1, to my knowledge, over 20 years ago now. It's a 'workaround' the same way walking upstairs is a workaround for an escalator, imo.

            • yepyoukno 2 hours ago

              Oh I know it! I was slighting Groovy when the old fashion way always worked just fine!

              Didn’t mean to draw it out as “one of those” battles.

              Cheers!

  • pestatije 6 hours ago

    cant read those snippets... need more contrast

    • hiAndrewQuinn 4 hours ago

      apologies, didn't test the layout on light mode - thanks for letting me know