32 comments

  • cozzyd 33 minutes ago

    They will have to "correctly" answer who is the best president, is the straight of Hormuz blocked, and how tall should the ballroom be.

    • dragonwriter 30 minutes ago

      More to the point, the vendor will have to make the correct deals with and contributions to firms and foundations owned and operated by the President’s friends and family members.

    • malshe 27 minutes ago

      Also answer “correctly” who won the 2020 presidential election

      • dgellow 21 minutes ago

        And Jan 6 revisionism, ie not mentioning that the sitting president attempted a coup to steal an election

  • changoplatanero 14 minutes ago

    I have many questions. How would A/B testing work in the scenario where models need to be approved by the government before release? All the big providers commonly a/b test their unreleased models on production traffic. Would these need to be preapproved? Many models get tested on the public for every one that is officially "released". Will the government have the bandwidth to examine each of these? Does changing the system prompt count as a different model or only model weights?

    • aurareturn 12 minutes ago

      You just perfectly highlighted why over-regulation in tech is troublesome. This is why I've always been against European tech regulations which gave us the cookie prompt. Politicians shouldn't be product designers.

      • 2ndorderthought a few seconds ago

        It's because the actual goals have nothing to do with what they say they are.

  • JLO64 23 minutes ago

    A worst case scenario I feel is that the government could restrict inference providers within the US to run only approved/American LLMs, which would be a huge deal since the only recent American OSS model is Gemma. I could see OpenAI/Anthropic/Google lobbying for that though…

    • aurareturn 20 minutes ago

      My thought as well. They will approve every new American trained LLM but they can't control the release of free Chinese LLMs. Therefore, the only card they can play is to simply make Chinese LLMs illegal to use for American companies and Americans.

      Ultimately, this will grant more power to OpenAI, Anthropic, and Google due to regulatory capture but it hurts the AI industry overall.

      • 2ndorderthought 3 minutes ago

        Only the us AI industry. It will put the US in a ditch with it's only asset being the ability to surveill its citizens for negative money and negative innovation. The rest of the world will keep spinning just fine

    • victorbjorklund 7 minutes ago

      Let’s hope. It would be great for Europe and the rest of the world.

      • dgellow 5 minutes ago

        Unless we (Europe) start to do the same…

        • 2ndorderthought 2 minutes ago

          Nah there's literally no reason geopolitically or economically to do that for Europe. The US has more or less entirely botched everything except it's military applications for AI. It's endangering the whole economy in the process too.

    • 2ndorderthought 5 minutes ago

      They know very well that China is going to keep releasing world class models at 1/20th the price and 5-300x the size. They also know they screwed up by going full technofacism and there's no way back because of the trillions invested in oligarchs and it endangers the entire economy.

  • rascul an hour ago

    "Black market AI" has a nice ring to it.

  • roboror an hour ago
  • aurareturn 26 minutes ago

    * Maybe Anthropic's call for regulation has backfired. Now it's going to be overregulation. They might regret it now.

    * This might be regulatory capture for OpenAI, Google, and Anthropic. Any new entrant will have a harder time getting approval.

    * This is going to be terrible for the industry in general because this administration will not hesitate to demand bribes and force their propaganda into the models.

    * This might cause the US to ban the use of Chinese models for US businesses and governments. After all, Chinese models won't need white house approval to release. So the only way to "control" them is to simply make them illegal.

  • moneycantbuy an hour ago

    so the trump mafia can corruptly profit from them?

    • ahurmazda 29 minutes ago

      Mobster admin so checks out

      “Nice model you got there… shame if someone prompt injected a regulatory framework into it.”

  • winddude 9 minutes ago

    "The National Security Agency has also recently used Anthropic’s Mythos model to assess vulnerabilities in the U.S. government’s software, people with knowledge of the work said."

    I'm sure that's not the only thing they've used it for. Definitely looking for any exploit they can use to enhance data gathering, and cracking into IOS, private networks, etc. Gotta keep an eye on citizens, but hey, it's the only government body that really listens you.

    at this point it almost seems like citizens should review AI models before the government can access them.

  • thrill 30 minutes ago

    Sure, let’s kill what little lead the US AI industry has while the rest of the world kicks ass - it’s working so well in all our other endeavors.

  • sigmar 7 minutes ago

    What specifically is the goal of the pre-release review? Just to patch government systems first? Seems like the government was banning internal use of anthropic's models 2 months ago and now wants exclusive access for some amount of time. Clown show...

  • kelvinjps10 16 minutes ago

    More inside trading and poly market betting

  • tombert 21 minutes ago

    How the fuck would this even be enforced? "AI model" is a pretty broad thing; in some sense basically anything involving weights could be considered "AI", and even more abstractly you could argue that even a runtime conditional is AI.

    • dgellow 19 minutes ago

      Honestly, if we are discussing the „how“ I feel that we are already ceding too much ground. Whatever technical solutions exist it is a terrible precedent

  • OutOfHere 33 minutes ago

    China doesn't require permission from the White House.

    • dgellow 22 minutes ago

      Mind elaborating instead of vague posting? Are you saying that China is already doing that vetting or that China will benefit because they can release models faster without having to be blocked by WH vetting?

      • data-ottawa 13 minutes ago

        Not the OP, but:

        - China is the largest open weight provider, with Mistral and Cohere delivering a few other models. There isn’t much else internationally

        - (I think OP is suggesting) this would effectively ban Chinese models in the US, which would be an interesting case. Who knows if they could have theirs reviewed, or if we’ll see another FCC approved router situation.

        - that Chinese models are censored is a very common criticism. If American models are also censored that looks bad.

        - this will be awful for self hosters and local inference. Imagine if HuggingFace had to drop non-American model weights. That would effectively kill them.

  • Hizonner 20 minutes ago

    Um, I realize the Trump administration doesn't pay a lot of attention to what it does and does not have authority to do, but I'm having trouble imagining what they'd even claim their authority was...