7 comments

  • Bender 3 hours ago

    I am not seeing a decent list of alternatives. Here [1] is a list of alternatives if people wish to exclude systemd for whatever reason. It appears someone compromised this wiki based on the top and bottom of the page. Here [2] is the version without the casino links.

    There are also a handful of sites that show how to make systemd leaner such as disabling units that are not required, not desired or that are measured as being slow via the "systemd-analyze blame" command but I will just include the alternatives. Just keep in mind some services that are slow also run in the background. e.g.

        52.896s cachyos-rate-mirrors.service
         4.752s dev-tpm0.device
         4.752s sys-devices-platform-MSFT0101:00-tpm-tpm0.device
         4.628s sys-devices-platform-MSFT0101:00-tpmrm-tpmrm0.device
         4.628s dev-tpmrm0.device
         2.417s chronyd.service
    
    [1] - https://without-systemd.org/wiki/index_php/Main_Page/

    [2] - http://archive.today/KCcXc [clean version]

  • miladyincontrol 7 hours ago

    Echo'ing a sentiment I've seen previously here, systemd genuinely has to have one the highest haters to benefit-to-humanity ratios of all software projects.

    Unless its for a very basic environment, trying to replicate much of what it enables just makes for a far more complicated and error prone system.

    • dngray 6 hours ago

      100% and when you decide to use something else, you realize why systemd is actually good.

  • Thundernerd 7 hours ago

    I was expecting to read why systemd is out of control but the only thing mentioned is this:

    > While systemd is a powerful init system, it has grown far beyond its original purpose, adding features like age verification that many feel don't belong in a core OS component.

    Is there a better explanation as to why it is out of control?

    • dngray 6 hours ago

      That's because it's a slop article and it's only really an advertisement for a particular linux distribution.

  • mdlxxv 6 hours ago

    systemd haters are out of control.

  • sgbeal 7 hours ago

    > When people talk about minimal Linux, they often think of the old days when systems used only 300 MB of RAM.

    Wait, what??? No - we think of systems with 4-8MB of RAM and hard drives were <= 120MB (MB, not GB).