You can literally still connect to this game from your terminal: telnet mume.org 4040 IIRC.
When I was a teenager, a buddy and I printed out giant copies of that map, laminated it, and put it on the wall in front of our computers while we hunted hobbits on our orc characters. Was pretty rad.
Always known of MUME, though wasn't a part of my mud history. I've wondered how the other tolkien muds compare, though most would be much smaller worlds I'm sure.
> MUME is a free multi user role-playing game based upon J.R.R. Tolkien's 'Middle Earth' that has been continuously running since fall '91. The action takes place in the late Third Age, before 'The Hobbit' and after the loss of the One Ring by Sauron. The key of Erebor was just found by Gandalf and all the epic tales narrated in 'The Lord of the Rings' may take place. MUME covers 23'000+ original rooms from the mighty Dwarven Halls beyond the Gulf of Lh???n in the West to the fringes of Mirkwood in the East, and from the ruins of Fornost in the North to the fortress of Isengard in the South. In this meticulously crafted world where fantasy tales come to life players join... https://mume.org/
Very nice. I have a book of maps for his world on a bookshelf here which I got when I was young (The Atlas of Middle-Earth - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Atlas_of_Middle-earth). I enjoyed reading that a lot, and it was nice to see that most parts of it are well thought through and internally consistent (there's one piece near Rivendell which is a bit of a mess between the Hobbit and LotR but we can let Tolkien have one minor issue).
Friendly advice: this is wrong way to sell fantasy maps to nerds. The link shows some animation (which actually feels a bit annoying cause I can't focus on any particular detail), and lowres pics of maps itself (which can't prove the quality of work), and some useless text. Instead it'd be way better to show a few highres fragments.
It's probably just me, but I'm having trouble finding any images of the Middle Earth maps except for Numenor, Valinor and Aman. Maybe it's just OP's title that led me to expect otherwise?
Beautiful work, I love fantasy cartography. Someday I actually want to make some maps of my own, I was thinking of ASOIAF. A slightly off-topic question, are these types of maps legal to sell from copyright point of view? I understand that this is quite a niche product, so maybe I'm overthinking it, but do these count as derivative works ?
I had the same thought. Not bashing their work I am genuinely curios.
For this specific case I was suprised to see they have a dedicated website for such questions! So I guess it is quite common.... (They seem very serious about it since i couldn't even mark the text to copy it here! )
>Tolkien’s original drawings, paintings, maps, designs, scripts and other graphic works are protected by copyright and may not be copied. The Tolkien Estate takes action against parties who try to commercialise Tolkien’s works, including maps of Middle-earth, the One Ring Inscription and other images.
The key is that the original maps are copyrighted, and direct derivatives may fall under that, too - but the general information cannot be copyrighted (at least in the USA).
You could make a freeway map of Eriador, for example.
Don’t forget trademarks, even if your maps are drawn completely from scratch then I am sure whoever has the license for selling maps of A Song Of Ice And Fire (TM) will take issue with you presenting them as such, if your business becomes large enough for them to bother noticing you.
Tangential, BUT, here is a grid map of ARDA from a (M)ulti (U)ser (D)ungeon text game from the 90s that you can still play: https://mume.yllemo.com/lib/exe/fetch.php?cache=&media=maps:...
You can literally still connect to this game from your terminal: telnet mume.org 4040 IIRC.
When I was a teenager, a buddy and I printed out giant copies of that map, laminated it, and put it on the wall in front of our computers while we hunted hobbits on our orc characters. Was pretty rad.
Always known of MUME, though wasn't a part of my mud history. I've wondered how the other tolkien muds compare, though most would be much smaller worlds I'm sure.
If you set the Genre here to Tolkien you can see a list of some: https://mudstats.com/Browse
> MUME is a free multi user role-playing game based upon J.R.R. Tolkien's 'Middle Earth' that has been continuously running since fall '91. The action takes place in the late Third Age, before 'The Hobbit' and after the loss of the One Ring by Sauron. The key of Erebor was just found by Gandalf and all the epic tales narrated in 'The Lord of the Rings' may take place. MUME covers 23'000+ original rooms from the mighty Dwarven Halls beyond the Gulf of Lh???n in the West to the fringes of Mirkwood in the East, and from the ruins of Fornost in the North to the fortress of Isengard in the South. In this meticulously crafted world where fantasy tales come to life players join... https://mume.org/
Very nice. I have a book of maps for his world on a bookshelf here which I got when I was young (The Atlas of Middle-Earth - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Atlas_of_Middle-earth). I enjoyed reading that a lot, and it was nice to see that most parts of it are well thought through and internally consistent (there's one piece near Rivendell which is a bit of a mess between the Hobbit and LotR but we can let Tolkien have one minor issue).
c.f., _The Worlds of J. R. R. Tolkien: The Places That Inspired Middle-earth_ by John Garth
https://www.goodreads.com/book/show/53939643-the-worlds-of-j...
and esp. the photo from the review:
https://signumuniversity.org/course/lita-5315/
https://signumuniversity.org/wp-content/uploads/sites/27/202...
(I had thought I had seen a higher-resolution version, but not finding it now)
This book is amazing; the fact that she was able to work out most everything involving geology just from Tolkien's descriptions is wonderful.
I have that same book. It was a major source of inspiration when I was a kid.
Funny, I found this last night: https://www.ardacraft.me/
Friendly advice: this is wrong way to sell fantasy maps to nerds. The link shows some animation (which actually feels a bit annoying cause I can't focus on any particular detail), and lowres pics of maps itself (which can't prove the quality of work), and some useless text. Instead it'd be way better to show a few highres fragments.
It's probably just me, but I'm having trouble finding any images of the Middle Earth maps except for Numenor, Valinor and Aman. Maybe it's just OP's title that led me to expect otherwise?
A bit unrelated, but one of the rarest pieces for Tolkien's collectors has been put for sale recently
https://www.tomwayling.co.uk/product-page/songs-for-the-phil...
Hopefully that too will get a good reprint, or better an academic treatment like to _On Fairy Stories_ --- that _The Old English Exodus_:
https://tolkiengateway.net/wiki/The_Old_English_Exodus
is getting reprinted (though annoyingly only in a boxed set of other books I already have) would argue for it.
Beautiful work, I love fantasy cartography. Someday I actually want to make some maps of my own, I was thinking of ASOIAF. A slightly off-topic question, are these types of maps legal to sell from copyright point of view? I understand that this is quite a niche product, so maybe I'm overthinking it, but do these count as derivative works ?
I had the same thought. Not bashing their work I am genuinely curios.
For this specific case I was suprised to see they have a dedicated website for such questions! So I guess it is quite common.... (They seem very serious about it since i couldn't even mark the text to copy it here! )
>Tolkien’s original drawings, paintings, maps, designs, scripts and other graphic works are protected by copyright and may not be copied. The Tolkien Estate takes action against parties who try to commercialise Tolkien’s works, including maps of Middle-earth, the One Ring Inscription and other images.
[0] https://www.tolkienestate.com/frequently-asked-questions-and...
The key is that the original maps are copyrighted, and direct derivatives may fall under that, too - but the general information cannot be copyrighted (at least in the USA).
You could make a freeway map of Eriador, for example.
And see all the "unofficial" books around Minecraft or Harry Potter (or lord of the rings): https://www.amazon.com/s?k=unofficial+lord+of+the+rings
And maps "in the style" of Tolkien but covering the real world or other properties are likely entirely fine.
Don’t forget trademarks, even if your maps are drawn completely from scratch then I am sure whoever has the license for selling maps of A Song Of Ice And Fire (TM) will take issue with you presenting them as such, if your business becomes large enough for them to bother noticing you.
odd, I'd rather have Tolkienistic maps of the Earth :)
good news, there are artists out there doing exactly this!
one example: https://lordofmaps.com/ (unaffiliated)
Cool!