Snowflake lays off documentation staff after they train AI replacement

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24 points | by cedporter 15 hours ago ago

19 comments

  • spzb 2 hours ago

    >Documentation quality hasn't dropped because the AI learned from the best

    Yet

  • morgango 7 hours ago

    A young Kim Catrall had a Vulcan commentary on this: https://www.elastic.co/customers

  • conartist6 13 hours ago

    Sounds like a company digging its own grave by forcing its employees to dig their own graves

    • add-sub-mul-div 13 hours ago

      It sounds like a company that will profit more by saving money and giving their customers a worse product, and they don't have to worry about the consequences of that because every other company is doing it too.

      • conartist6 12 hours ago

        Yes, but what if some companies don't do it and instead make better products. Do we think that's impossible? Because with so many companies focused on making worse products more cheaply, it seems like it should be easier than ever to win the game by making good products...

        • LiquidSky 6 hours ago

          >Do we think that's impossible?

          Yes. Even if it weren't, it doesn't even seem to matter anymore. Making better products doesn't seem to lead to more money than churning out shit and financializing it, so why would anyone bother?

        • AndrewKemendo 11 hours ago

          Consumers have voted over and over and over and they are very clear: The vast majority will choose cheap vs good

          Commodity products win in the long term and “better” products that are more expensive will go out of business

          • conartist6 8 hours ago

            Yeah the real holy grail is a product that's both cheaper and better. If we're still climbing the ladder of abstraction, over time it does become possible to build products both cheaper and better.

            • LiquidSky 6 hours ago

              But who cares about the long term when you could make a killing this year or even just this quarter and walk away with a fortune.

          • disgruntledphd2 11 hours ago

            > Consumers have voted over and over and over and they are very clear: The vast majority will choose cheap vs good

            Snowflake customers have definitely not made this choice, as Snowflake is good but very, very expensive. They're basically the Oracle of cloud.

            • AndrewKemendo 10 hours ago

              Isn’t Oracle the oracle of cloud?

              And this still fits, if snowflake is feeling pressure from lower cost entrants or demand from investors for more profit then it would track

              I don’t necessarily disagree that it’s a risk but people assume that companies optimize for product stickiness but in fact they don’t, most companies optimize for investor relationships

  • ivraatiems 13 hours ago

    I'm sure this will work out well and in no way impact the quality of their product.

  • swingboy 14 hours ago

    More disenfranchised employees to be soldiers in the Butlerian Jihad.

  • AndrewKemendo 10 hours ago

    The brutal part: they made the senior writers spend their final 6 weeks "knowledge transferring" to the AI system

    I’ve said this for decades: The future is transfer learning from humans to machines until the point where bootstrapping new behaviors doesn’t need a human

    • daheza 5 hours ago

      This is so interesting. My work is having us do a AI hackathon where we have to attempt to do our daily job only using AI tooling. No writing any code yourself, no manual input besides to the agents. I guess I should prepare myself for the inevitable conclusion of this.

      • AndrewKemendo 3 hours ago

        Move up the technical-product abstraction stack if you want to survive

    • bombashell 10 hours ago

      Interesting perspective, I honestly had not thought about it this way. I work on problems around knowledge transfer but always from the angle of people leaving or transitioning roles where the goal is to preserve knowledge so it does not get lost. Framing it as people effectively training the system that might replace them feels pretty brutal.

      • AndrewKemendo 9 hours ago

        It’s literally how information transfer happens between humans and machines forever - how do you think factory automation works? The deming system was literally timing every human task and then replacing them mechanically one at a time

        See one, do one, teach one has been standard in bootstrapping behavior learning in advanced mammals since the early 20th century

        Why would it not be applied to non human systems that are capable of replicating it

  • ratrace 7 hours ago

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