Why Are Viral Capsids Icosahedral?

(asimov.press)

63 points | by surprisetalk 4 days ago ago

11 comments

  • NooneAtAll3 3 hours ago

    > even though evolution is contingent at a local level (such as a specific protein sequence or the shape of a flower), it is remarkably predictable at a global level (such as the very existence of proteins and flowers across many species)

    to be fair... flowers are a very recent invention that appeared only after the dinosaurs got wiped out and clean slate allowed co-evolution of flowers and pollinators to occur

  • dekhn 2 hours ago

    We used to joke in my biophysics grad program that basically everything was determined by its surface area to volume ratio.

  • meindnoch 2 hours ago

    >an estimated 70 percent of viral capsids known to date are icosahedral, shaped like tiny soccer balls.

    Soccer balls are not icosahedra. The archetypal soccer ball is a truncated icosahedron: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Truncated_icosahedron

    • yorwba an hour ago

      There are a few pictures of truncated icosahedra in the article, alongside several other shapes that are not icosahedra. The point is that they have icosahedral symmetry. The L is important.

      • JackFr 19 minutes ago

        I was going to comment pedantically that soccer balls were dodecahedrons not icosahedrons, but in reading the article, I came to realize that truncated icosahedrons are the same as truncated dodecahedrons.

        This was such a delightful realization I felt the need to comment anyway.

    • 1-more 2 hours ago

      And that archetypal soccer ball design is called the Telstar and named for a communications satellite, fun fact. I think before 1968 the volleyball shape was more popular https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Adidas_Telstar

    • strgrd an hour ago

      do you know what the modifier "like" means in the sentence you quoted, or are you just being annoyingly pedantic

  • avereveard 3 hours ago

    eh but also organic chemistry only does well 30 and 60 degrees

    • dekhn 2 minutes ago

      See buckyballs as a trivial refutation of your point.

    • BigTTYGothGF 28 minutes ago

      The universe seems perfectly happy to have, for example, 5-member rings tho.