Chimpanzees Are into Crystals

(nytimes.com)

57 points | by jimnotgym 9 hours ago ago

30 comments

  • JoelMcCracken an hour ago

    Don’t get me wrong, this is very interesting, but there is something very funny about the idea that “give a chimpanzee stuff and see if they like it” is academic research.

    This could absolutely be a headline on The Onion.

    • dmix an hour ago

      > But he’s also very interested in “the impact of crystals on the history of art and the history of mind,”

      This made my eyes roll a bit.

    • Razengan an hour ago

      "Breaking: Animals Have Preferences"

    • indoordin0saur an hour ago

      Definitely gives fuel to those in congress looking to defund university budgets

      Senator: "And this one! '1.2 million dollars to study if Chimpanzees think crystals are pretty.' That's your tax dollars at work, folks!"

      • panzagl 2 minutes ago

        The study was in Spain- do European countries have the same sort of backlash to this stuff? Is there a province in Spain that has the equivalent to 'the senator from Indiana' that is the stereotypical anti-NSF figure in US politics? Genuinely curious about this.

      • that_lurker 6 minutes ago

        Have Americans tried giving them crystals

  • shagie 2 hours ago
    • mikkupikku 2 hours ago

      Share links need accounts anyway? Is this new?

      "You have free access to this story. Continue reading with a Times account"

  • nivertech 33 minutes ago

    unsurprising, since they're also into Monoliths

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cHWs3c3YNs4

  • chasil 2 hours ago
  • tantalor 38 minutes ago

    I'd gladly trade you a banana tomorrow for a crystal today.

  • talktalkmake an hour ago

    You're talking ** Karl, PLAY A RECORD

  • sampton 16 minutes ago

    The real question is there a gender bias in chimps when it comes to crystals.

  • mrbluecoat 2 hours ago

    They're also into bananas

    • Centigonal an hour ago

      so are people! we overthrew multiple countries for banan

      • IAmBroom an hour ago

        "Bananoi", please. They aren't Latin.

    • gtowey an hour ago

      What's wrong with bananas?

      • tsimionescu an hour ago

        They're a nightmare for atheists!

        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nfv-Qn1M58I

        • MyHonestOpinon 31 minutes ago

          This is clearly a parody. right? right? please say yes.

          • prophesi 18 minutes ago

            The intelligent design controversy during the mid 2000's were a fun time. I still have some Flying Spaghetti Monster merch.

      • SpaceL10n an hour ago

        A sizable percentage of the human population is deathly allergic to bananas.

        • olivia-banks an hour ago

          I'm mildly allergic to bananas, but I don't think the number of people allergic to bananas is "sizable."

        • throwway120385 an hour ago

          My son is not, and he will let you know how not allergic he is to Bananas if he sees any that he is not eating.

        • IAmBroom an hour ago

          And this is relevant how?

    • JKCalhoun an hour ago

      Me too.

  • moi2388 an hour ago

    What if you place a whole bunch of similar crystals in a pile, with only 1 or 2 smooth rocks?

    I’m willing to bet they will go after the smooth rocks and it’s about rarity, not crystals.

    • egypturnash 9 minutes ago

      If you read the original paper (https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/psychology/articles/10....) then they go into more detail on the piles of pebbles and what got taken; the graphs in figure 4 (https://www.frontiersin.org/journals/psychology/articles/10....) make it very obvious that the chimps loved the crystals.

      (an "euhedral" crystal is one with lots of obvious facets, an "anhedral" one is one that's been rounded down into a more pebble shape.)

    • axus 19 minutes ago

      You have a question, a hypothesis and designed an experiment to test it.

      The study had a harder question: "What properties of crystalline stones attracted them?". The abstract has this answer: "We found that transparency and geometric shape were the two attractors guiding chimpanzees."

      Maybe this is scientific proof for the diamond industry.

    • lich_king an hour ago

      > I’m willing to bet they will go after the smooth rocks and it’s about rarity, not crystals.

      Why? Crystals are pretty, rocks are not. We clearly prefer shiny colorful things to dull beige things, even if shiny things are abundant.