Don’t they have better things to do? Maybe vibecode a taskbar that moves when you try to move away the mouse over it or perhaps a windows 12 installation procedure that requires a fecal sample and iris scan?
first one is a really slick tooltip ui to make sure people read tooltips. hover over button, it slides out while revealing tooltip text in its place, move cursor to button again
if you want to make sure people read a lot of instructions you can chain this so that you need to hover over the button multiple times, revealing the instructions a bit at a time
Hehe, this reminds me of 30 years ago when people used to stylise it as Micro$oft or creatively misspell it as Microshaft, etc. Even on the Amiga, there was the filesystem that could read PC format disks that was called MessyDos. It just seems like the next generation has discovered what an easy name it is to make puns from.
Last week on a comedy show (the daily show) they made a joke about bill gates "micro and soft" which was old in the 90s already, so I can confirm this is the case.
IIRC with Windows 98 you could just use any product key you had on as many machines as you wanted since there was no activation or real phoning home capabilities. So most likely your whole friend group would be using the same serial that was copied off your uncle's old gateway.
I used to have a M$ email signature 30 years ago, and pay, nowaydays I mostly use Windows on my laptop, because I am not willing to pay Apple prices even though I can afford them, and even last year I was dealing with GNU/Linux installation issues on a Gigabyte BRIX.
What community is there to house around Microsoft Copilot?
Seriously, why does Microsoft Copilot need a Discord Server?
What do I talk about when I join the Microsoft Copilot server?
What are we doing here?
I'd imagine that there's some discussion about how to make the most out of the tool as well as discussion of experiments and capabilities. I'm not even sure what exactly "Microsoft Copilot" entails anymore because of the multiple rebrands, but having a place where you can discuss exploring plugins and other adjacent features seems useful.
Not quite the same, but recently I was recently looking around for communities centered around Claude Code for discussion about people's workflows as well as discussion about what plugins people are using and if they notice it making a significant difference.
Since the technology is still evolving, having an active community can help you discover new patterns and explore the space more effectively.
> [...] I'm not even sure what exactly "Microsoft Copilot" entails anymore [...]
Watching from the sidelines (not a Microsoft user), I've completely lost track. Between this, the Azure 365 cloud whatever stuff, I have no idea what many of the products even exactly are any more.
Simply put Microsoft is the worst company at naming stuff. Even when they come up with a good name for something, they'll name 3 other totally different products the same thing to maximize confusion.
The same as every other Discord server: Giving a few people the feeling of power over dozens of channels with memes and unsearchable low-quality "discussions".
I don't take this lightly.
These are the folks who are doing what they can to be part of the government.
They simply cannot take criticism and this seems to be a pattern moving forward.
Because it comes 'free' with an Office365 subscription. Embrace (<<you are here), extend, extinguish.
It's usually 'management'. The same management that won't pay for developer tools (including Slack) because 'why do you need that when you can do 95% of your work in VSCode?' It's also usually the same sort of management that can do 95% of their documents in... VSCode and markdown. Or LibreOffice.
The default of making a public discord for your project/company always seemed like a bad idea anyway. It’ll always devolve into some drama or distracting overhead to moderate it
You can argue that banning insults is a bad look, bad move, that the insult is warranted or whatever, but are you really going to die on the hill that calling the company Microslop isn't insulting?
People do work at Microsoft though and they're probably aren't very happy when their work is called slop. You could even say they are feeling insulted or offended.
The branding people will hate it. Although IMHO the best thing they could do is co-opt it as a feedback term and acknowledge that AI can be hit or miss.
I think the most important question here is this: Are users who post the string "microslop" generally desirable participants that will contribute in a productive manner?
It depends what the purpose of the Discord channel is. Is it for open and frank discussion, or for MS drones to discuss Copilot development. It's a cliche, but banning certain words smacks of 1984-style censorship.
It is supposed to indicate Microsoft cares only about money, which to me too, seems in the same league as microslop, i.e. mildly insulting but really not rude enough to be worth censoring.
And other insults are just words as well. It's the intention, history, connotation etc. behind words that give them meaning. M$ is meant as an insult, hence it's insulting. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/M$
They can do a bad thing, and then you can make fun of it with an insult.
Own it, the insult is warranted, why hide and pretend it's not an insult.
If Microsoft is consistently shipping slop, then they deserve insults over it; not every "bad" thing is always unwarranted. Locking someone in a box is "bad", prison is a necessary thing that benefits society. Insults are "bad" and sometimes warranted.
If anything it is a diminutive for a company which really should have named itself Megaslop by now if not Gigaslop or even Teraslop. Poor little Microslop, are those people being nasty again?
But to be fair, corporate discords have to be like that. Why not create your own channel with your colleagues instead? This discussion would be "private" and corporate can just ignore it.
> create your own channel with your colleagues instead
Dont even think about it ... it will be private till it isnt then, it will be the reason you are fired. Its corpo world - shut your mouth and dont put anything on a permanent record you dont have to.
If I were to bet on what would get a Microsoft Discord server shut down, I would have put money on discussions of the ties between Microsoft executives and Epstein. They should be happy if the worst thing that's happening is a mildly deragatory nickname.
Windows 11 is definitely failing in weird ways for me, I don't know if it's due to slop. The latest example is that I can't launch Notepad via the start menu... I can launch other apps though.
So much money is currently invested in AI development that the companies that have invested this money, and these are the richest and most influential companies in the world, simply will not accept any scenario other than the massive use of AI and a society that is dependent on it.
I don't know for certain, but moderators (on a company Discord) are likely random people in a 3rd world country that are payed peanuts and that is their only income. If higher ups tell them "I don't want to see the Microslop word anywhere" they just do it.
You should be angry at the higher ups that instead of saying: "maybe they are right and we can do better" they decided to hide the problem through censorship. Which, btw, always has the opposite effect of putting what you are trying to hide in the spotlight.
Absolutely the right decision, since anyone who used this word was expressing hateful speech. We are for freedom and should not allow all kinds of ultra-biased people to ruin it.
Hateful speech, really? If we called it Micro$hit maybe.... but if they are going to be buthurt because a bunch of gamers and sysadmins are annoyed at the horrific direction the company is taking, then they deserve it.
Don’t they have better things to do? Maybe vibecode a taskbar that moves when you try to move away the mouse over it or perhaps a windows 12 installation procedure that requires a fecal sample and iris scan?
> requires a fecal sample So requires the user to log in?
> installation procedure that requires a fecal sample and iris scan
Do you work for Microsoft or something? Please do do not give them ideas.
“Featuring a partnership with Kohler Health and the Dekoda toilet camera and Withings and their UScan piss sensor…”
I can really see them ship the first, that's at the same time very funny, and quite sad.
first one is a really slick tooltip ui to make sure people read tooltips. hover over button, it slides out while revealing tooltip text in its place, move cursor to button again
if you want to make sure people read a lot of instructions you can chain this so that you need to hover over the button multiple times, revealing the instructions a bit at a time
“Your sample was insufficient. Please try again later.”
"please drink the verification can"
Sci-Fi Author: In my book I invented the Torment Nexus as a cautionary tale
Tech Company: At long last, we have created the Torment Nexus from classic sci-fi novel Don't Create The Torment Nexus
Hehe, this reminds me of 30 years ago when people used to stylise it as Micro$oft or creatively misspell it as Microshaft, etc. Even on the Amiga, there was the filesystem that could read PC format disks that was called MessyDos. It just seems like the next generation has discovered what an easy name it is to make puns from.
If you're German-speaking: "Klopilot" and "Vibrierkot" are some modern day personal favorites.
On a similar, nostalgic note, I recall boot screens for "Sinnlos 98" floating around, back when modifying the bootup logo was a thing.
Ok, Vibrierkot is something for the German shitpost communities with all my Zuhausis im Zwischennetz.
There are regions in Germany (Hessen) where "Azure" is pronounced the exact same way as "Ärger" (trouble). Makes you think...
Wow, that's incredible. Even though I'm from Hessen, I never thought of making that connection!
For Latvians Windows Vista was pretty funny cluck cluck.
Don’t forget Kleinweich
"Der Ätsch-Browser".
MS-DOS itself is derived from QDOS, which stands for "Quick and Dirty Operating System".
Things only went downhill from there.
Last week on a comedy show (the daily show) they made a joke about bill gates "micro and soft" which was old in the 90s already, so I can confirm this is the case.
In Brazil people used to say "Ruindows", which is a play with the portuguese word for bad.
Don't forget Windoze.
In french we have Windaube (pronunced Windob).
Daube is a slang word for something of low quality.
Don't forget Winblows
Another oldie
"If you play the Win98 CD backwards, it summons Satan. It's worse when you play it forwards - it installs Windows"
Ah, good times... :-)
I had to reinstall win98 so many times I still remember the pirate key k4hvdq9tj96crx9c9g68rq2d3 by heart
good times :)
I guess I was more of the FCKGW generation. :)
IIRC with Windows 98 you could just use any product key you had on as many machines as you wanted since there was no activation or real phoning home capabilities. So most likely your whole friend group would be using the same serial that was copied off your uncle's old gateway.
Ah, FuCK Gates, William.
I think there were at least three other commonly used codes, but this one was by far the most popular.
Internet exploder
Internet Exploiter
I used to have a M$ email signature 30 years ago, and pay, nowaydays I mostly use Windows on my laptop, because I am not willing to pay Apple prices even though I can afford them, and even last year I was dealing with GNU/Linux installation issues on a Gigabyte BRIX.
What community is there to house around Microsoft Copilot? Seriously, why does Microsoft Copilot need a Discord Server? What do I talk about when I join the Microsoft Copilot server? What are we doing here?
I'd imagine that there's some discussion about how to make the most out of the tool as well as discussion of experiments and capabilities. I'm not even sure what exactly "Microsoft Copilot" entails anymore because of the multiple rebrands, but having a place where you can discuss exploring plugins and other adjacent features seems useful.
Not quite the same, but recently I was recently looking around for communities centered around Claude Code for discussion about people's workflows as well as discussion about what plugins people are using and if they notice it making a significant difference.
Since the technology is still evolving, having an active community can help you discover new patterns and explore the space more effectively.
> [...] I'm not even sure what exactly "Microsoft Copilot" entails anymore [...]
Watching from the sidelines (not a Microsoft user), I've completely lost track. Between this, the Azure 365 cloud whatever stuff, I have no idea what many of the products even exactly are any more.
Simply put Microsoft is the worst company at naming stuff. Even when they come up with a good name for something, they'll name 3 other totally different products the same thing to maximize confusion.
The same as every other Discord server: Giving a few people the feeling of power over dozens of channels with memes and unsearchable low-quality "discussions".
It reminds me of the US army and their fabulous idea to open a Twitch channel. Went as well as you expect.
How do you do, fellow kids?
It’s just another checkbox in someone’s performance review, no need to think too hard about it.
Maybe all the users are OpenClaw instances?
I don't take this lightly. These are the folks who are doing what they can to be part of the government. They simply cannot take criticism and this seems to be a pattern moving forward.
Why is Microsoft using Discord and not Teams?
So non-employees join and provide free support to other users without having to pay them.
Why would anyone use Teams?
Because it comes 'free' with an Office365 subscription. Embrace (<<you are here), extend, extinguish.
It's usually 'management'. The same management that won't pay for developer tools (including Slack) because 'why do you need that when you can do 95% of your work in VSCode?' It's also usually the same sort of management that can do 95% of their documents in... VSCode and markdown. Or LibreOffice.
Dogfooding only works when the dog food is edible.
Microslop doing Microslop things
Probably the AI blocked it
> Probably the AI blocked it
Maybe this is the real reason why companies want to use AI so badly.
They save money on salary but also they get to point at something they won't tattle against the executives during a plea bargain?
They are back in their villain arc. For a while now.
The default of making a public discord for your project/company always seemed like a bad idea anyway. It’ll always devolve into some drama or distracting overhead to moderate it
So this is the company pushing to be an integral part of everyone's lives, forcing it down everyone's throat without consent.
And they're already moderation a light hearted joke about their low quality products.
Doesn't really bode well for the future product Vision.
Wow, so someone opened a discord server for a community and banned an insulting word for the community? This must be a first.
Is "Microslop" really insulting, though?
You can argue that banning insults is a bad look, bad move, that the insult is warranted or whatever, but are you really going to die on the hill that calling the company Microslop isn't insulting?
insult (verb): to say or do something to someone that is rude or offensive
Corporate personhood at its finest.
People do work at Microsoft though and they're probably aren't very happy when their work is called slop. You could even say they are feeling insulted or offended.
Hey now, what's wrong with 'slop?' A farmer loves slop. It's dirt cheap, and the pigs don't seem to mind...
The branding people will hate it. Although IMHO the best thing they could do is co-opt it as a feedback term and acknowledge that AI can be hit or miss.
I think the most important question here is this: Are users who post the string "microslop" generally desirable participants that will contribute in a productive manner?
I suspect not.
It depends what the purpose of the Discord channel is. Is it for open and frank discussion, or for MS drones to discuss Copilot development. It's a cliche, but banning certain words smacks of 1984-style censorship.
> Is it for open and frank discussion
So... 4chan? Why would you possibly want that in this context?
Less insulting than Macroslop
Why wouldn’t it be? It’s a mean derivation of their company name.
It's as insulting as M$ is
Has there ever been a single good piece of writing that uses "M$" or the likes?
"M$" may not be insulting in itself, but it's certainly typically associated with insultingly poor writing.
How is M$ insulting? It just looks like a leetspeak version of MS.
It is supposed to indicate Microsoft cares only about money, which to me too, seems in the same league as microslop, i.e. mildly insulting but really not rude enough to be worth censoring.
And other insults are just words as well. It's the intention, history, connotation etc. behind words that give them meaning. M$ is meant as an insult, hence it's insulting. https://en.wiktionary.org/wiki/M$
It would be mean if they weren't actually vibecoding copilot & md into notepad, introducing an RCE vulnerability.
In notepad.
Why get yourself twisted like this?
They can do a bad thing, and then you can make fun of it with an insult.
Own it, the insult is warranted, why hide and pretend it's not an insult.
If Microsoft is consistently shipping slop, then they deserve insults over it; not every "bad" thing is always unwarranted. Locking someone in a box is "bad", prison is a necessary thing that benefits society. Insults are "bad" and sometimes warranted.
They did not rewrite Notepad in Rust? Seems to be an easy target
Maybe they should stop insulting their users with the slop they put out and charge for then.
If anything it is a diminutive for a company which really should have named itself Megaslop by now if not Gigaslop or even Teraslop. Poor little Microslop, are those people being nasty again?
It's insulting to good, honest slop.
Truth hurts the immature, which is also why censorship is rampant.
I would say that “microslop” is akin to the old term “micro$oft”, which was a good sign of immaturity of whoever used it.
> someone
It's Microsoft's official Copilot Discord. Microsoft banned the word
Microslop.
Has a nice ring to it.
Thank you Streisand effect!
I would be angry too. Its definitely not that micro.
Micro$lop then.
Macroslop
After that. Microshlong
Was hitting too close to home it seems...
But to be fair, corporate discords have to be like that. Why not create your own channel with your colleagues instead? This discussion would be "private" and corporate can just ignore it.
> create your own channel with your colleagues instead
Dont even think about it ... it will be private till it isnt then, it will be the reason you are fired. Its corpo world - shut your mouth and dont put anything on a permanent record you dont have to.
Like, why have a public discussion if we can have a private one? Public discussions are important, especially as AI is largely a political project
i'd argue a discord is never really "public", since there's still a barrier to entering and it's easy to get banned
If I were to bet on what would get a Microsoft Discord server shut down, I would have put money on discussions of the ties between Microsoft executives and Epstein. They should be happy if the worst thing that's happening is a mildly deragatory nickname.
Microstreisand?
Tells you a lot about where their focus is at as a company.
I'm sad that "Klopilot" only works in German.
"Hello, copilot, do you create slop? -> Skibidi slop slop slop aiiiiiii"
I propose we refer to them as Microslop from now on.
Windows 11 is definitely failing in weird ways for me, I don't know if it's due to slop. The latest example is that I can't launch Notepad via the start menu... I can launch other apps though.
So much money is currently invested in AI development that the companies that have invested this money, and these are the richest and most influential companies in the world, simply will not accept any scenario other than the massive use of AI and a society that is dependent on it.
365Slop all day every day all around
remember when they sued a HS student Mike Rowe for his microrowesoft website?
Micro$oft
Most discord users are children, more news at 11
IDK what's funnier/more pathetic, them doing this or an entire article getting written about it.
MicroslopSlop
> them doing this
Wouldn't any community that wants to encourage good quality conversations immediately ban everyone posting stupid slashdot-esque jokes like this?
...the AI agent sock-puppets pushing false positive narratives about MicroslopSlopSlop, and trolling anyone that disagrees =3
"Bad Bot Problem" (Computerphile)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AjQNDCYL5Rg
so this exists:
microslop.com
Well played
Ok, Microslop
Discord/Reddit moderators living up to their obnoxious stereotype as usual.
I don't know for certain, but moderators (on a company Discord) are likely random people in a 3rd world country that are payed peanuts and that is their only income. If higher ups tell them "I don't want to see the Microslop word anywhere" they just do it.
You should be angry at the higher ups that instead of saying: "maybe they are right and we can do better" they decided to hide the problem through censorship. Which, btw, always has the opposite effect of putting what you are trying to hide in the spotlight.
Spamming "microslop" is obnoxious, filtering out childish behaviour is not obnoxious.
But if you don't want childish behaviour, Discord is an ... interesting choice.
idiots
Wow. This is no longer HN community. This became bunch of immature reddit/comment section.
https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html
>Please don't post comments saying that HN is turning into Reddit. It's a semi-noob illusion, as old as the hills.
Absolutely the right decision, since anyone who used this word was expressing hateful speech. We are for freedom and should not allow all kinds of ultra-biased people to ruin it.
Hateful speech, really? If we called it Micro$hit maybe.... but if they are going to be buthurt because a bunch of gamers and sysadmins are annoyed at the horrific direction the company is taking, then they deserve it.