139 comments

  • ge96 2 days ago

    I'm still unable to accept that people accept ads as a part of life. I can't use instagram it's full of ads. I did finally get YT premium convinced by people on here but UBO all the way. Thankfully I never got sucked into Twitch.

    I get it too I'm a bad person for not accepting articles where every other paragraph is an ad.

    • xtracto 2 days ago

      There was a Firefox extension long ago that did NOT block ads but hid them. Basically it loaded them and for all the site knew, the add was showing, so it was transparent.

      But, the ad wasn't rendering in the page. So the user didnt need to suffer them, but the website owners still profited.

      The only losers where ad buyers, who IMHO are exactly the ones that should be affected.until they realize that ads are not effective.

      Someone should bring something like that for current platforms. Even for video like, a placeholder video with a tip, interesting fact or whatever, playing while the page load the real video.

      • Permik 2 days ago

        Not sure if you're talking about Adnauseam, but this is basically the lawful evil version of the extension you're describing. https://adnauseam.io/

        Adnauseam actually clicks on every ad in the background, otherwise it's just a wrapper on uBlock Origin.

        • xtracto 2 days ago

          Yes! That one. But we need it for video ads as well now.

          Ads are an evil that must be removed from the internet, and draining the wallets of companies using ads, without upside, would make them place less value on them.

      • kyorochan 2 days ago

        If ads are not effective, why do you think companies keep buying them? Surely they would have realized by now.

        • rchaud a day ago

          Companies have ad budgets that must be spent to the last dollar lest that dollar be deducted from next year's budget.

          • ej88 a day ago

            The only reason why have an ad budget is because buying ads was effective. If they were no longer effective there would be no ad budget

      • dpoloncsak a day ago

        >The only losers where ad buyers, who IMHO are exactly the ones that should be affected.until they realize that ads are not effective.

        Honest question, what do you envision will keep the free-internet free in lou of ads? Do you think a pay-walled internet, $3 for this site, $5 for this....would ever take off?

        I too block ads, but feel like i'm slowly contributing to the death spiral of the internet

        • neruthes a day ago

          Perhaps in recent years informational blog articles are mostly ads for the writer's products, services, and the chance to employ them? Informational stuff will remain public and free because eager seekers of monetization will easily convert to creators of marketplace-protected products and sell something on Steam or Gumroad. As long as one's primary purpose is to be informed, there will always be some writer not monetizing that particular piece of information. Maintaining the infrastructure (data centers and cables) eventually costs a lot of money and it must be paid by somebody eventually. Serving text pieces from a CDN is cheap enough for any blogger to personally afford, but no sane video hosting website will stop putting ads around.

        • estimator7292 a day ago

          The internet used to be free.

          • xtracto 18 hours ago

            It's so sad to read that there is people who is completely oblivious to the time when we had amazing free Gopher sites, or the WWW started and was fully Free (with L as in Libre).

            People born in 2000+ have no idea about that time

            • dpoloncsak 8 hours ago

              Servers cost money, at the end of the day

      • rfwhyte a day ago

        Ad buyers wouldn't be buying ads if they weren't effective.

    • ozgrakkurt 2 days ago

      Youtube is still very much ad spam even if you block the ads.

      Of course it depends on what kind of videos you watch. But videos themselves are becoming more ad filled and lower effort for me.

      I mainly consume software, gaming, cooking and hardware news videos.

      Huge portion of human effort going to ads is really sad

      • michaelt 2 days ago

        The extension 'sponsorblock' automatically jumps over ad reads in the video, with user-submitted start/end data.

        • debian3 2 days ago

          I’m always surprised when I watch a video that is 9 minutes old and the sponsors segments get skipped automatically. That extension must be getting quite popular.

        • abnercoimbre 2 days ago

          Can't recommend it enough. And with this plugin you'll immediately notice if a video is vapid (read: only exists to plug the sponsor.)

          • kitsune1 2 days ago

            How does the extension know if the submissions are valid and not malicious?

            • crote 2 days ago

              Users are able to "downvote" a "skip", and a skip which isn't undone is considered an "upvote".

      • nozzlegear 2 days ago

        I pay for YouTube Premium to block YouTube's "native" ads on Apple TV, but yeah, the sponsorship crap is getting out of hand. I need to look into getting the Apple TV sponsorblock thing set up.

        • ge96 2 days ago

          This is a side complaint on YT but I have purchased so many UHD movies and they only stream in 480P. I think you have to have some kind of YouTube certified device to play it in UHD but annoying.

          • hedora 2 days ago

            Pro tip: If you still have a local record store with a used section, you can probably buy blurays and dvds super cheap. They’re typically 25-50% the price of renting on Amazon/Apple, or buying used media on Amazon.

            Also, it’s actually easier to bypass the DRM crap than not, so they’ll continue to play in full resolution moving forward.

            • ge96 2 days ago

              That's one of those things, gotta have all these discs... I already have a hoarding problem, but it is a solution

              I want to point out I'm still an apt dweller unfortunately

              • BobaFloutist 2 days ago

                Nah, you can rip the discs and sell them back/toss them.

                You can also get discs from most libraries, book stores, many garage sails, ebay, for super cheap.

                • iaaan a day ago

                  At that point, why not just pirate and cut out the used disk middleman since the original creators aren't seeing any money from the purchase at that point anyway?

                  • hedora a day ago

                    Borrowing from libraries sort of gives money to the creators, since the libraries seem to buy + dump lots of copies. Buying used gives the libraries money, since they dump the copies at the used store.

                    Alternatively, be like me, and have a $100 budget for N ~= 20 BluRays/40 DVDs. 2-3 can be new purchases if used isn't in stock.

                  • BobaFloutist a day ago

                    Lip service to the law, in theory purchasing used discs supports original sales of new discs, and I at least sometimes prefer the discovery experience of physical browsing.

          • gedy 2 days ago

            Honestly if you've bought (oh sorry "licensed") a movie, I'd have 0 problem torrenting what you've paid for vs dealing with these games. Companies just want forever subscriptions, not purchasing in any case.

        • inigyou 2 days ago

          Well you obviously can't, since it's Apple.

      • hedora 2 days ago

        We use an official YouTube app, and it’s all ad fraud.

        It rapid rolls through video streams showing a second or two of each ad.

        Presumably this is so Google can charge advertisers for impressions that don’t actually exist.

        • slumberlust 2 days ago

          I've noticed this with shorts. I'll go through 20 or so, check my YT history and Google treats the worst ones as a watched video. I'll spend less than a second as my brain processes the slop and then skip. Sure as shit they act like I watched the whole video and recommend me more. It has to be some sort of revenue scam, no customer advantage has appeared to me yet.

      • quickthrowman 2 days ago

        If you have YT Premium and start skipping ahead while an in video ad is playing, it helpfully provides a button to skip it. Still annoying, but much less so.

      • throwaway85825 2 days ago

        Sponsor block works great.

      • ge96 2 days ago

        I watch stuff related to photography/cinematography, fishing (creeks), hobby electronics stuff, cars. That's most of it. Some makers like Hyperspace pirate. Travel videos like Japan Maibaru travel is good. Music recommendations, search a song and click on the "Song name + mix". The travel stuff I don't travel myself but the mood/atmosphere is great like Japanese towns near coast lines.

        It's funny being a developer you don't watch much developer content like Primogen though I'm jealous these guys can just talk into a camera and make money. It is a skill to be likeable/mass appeal, being entertaining.

        I already know the ad anyway, "this video is sponsored by SquareSpace". Bro I'm not going to use square space alright, I'm going to go into VS Code, make a SPA, host it on S3, buy a domain, connect the DNS, setup up ALB, CDN, setup RDS, cognito and then I'll have a website. Oh I also need github actions to do the build and push out the new changes.

        Will throw this random comment in. Competition with the masses is hard. I paid a friend of mine $100 per song he produced for me (which were bad). But then I can go on Epidemic Sound and for $10/mo pick from a shit ton of good songs... how does a single creator compete with that.

    • CompromisedTool 2 days ago

      My 2.5 year old recognizes ads and says “ew, ads” because I’ve intentionally said it each time we see one.

      • ErroneousBosh 2 days ago

        My 5-year-old skips over them saying "Why the hell would I want that" because I was not careful enough while skipping over ads saying "Why the hell would I want that".

        Children sample harder than Public Enemy.

    • Wowfunhappy 2 days ago

      The people who "accept ads as a part of life" are funding the content you read and watch. You are not in any way "a bad person", but you should be thankful that not everyone blocks ads.

      • rchaud a day ago

        Venture capital funds the content, on the hope that people watch ads in the future. Online ads now are a very different beast compared to what AdWords was from 2002-2007 - not dependent on full-spectrum surveillance through their own browser, their own mobile operating system, video streaming and cloud suite.

        Google accumulated untold riches from those primitive ads yet they and Meta have tightened the screw a little bit more in each passing year.

        • Wowfunhappy a day ago

          > Venture capital funds the content, on the hope that people watch ads in the future.

          Obviously, this isn't sustainable in itself.

          > Google accumulated untold riches from those primitive ads yet they and Meta have tightened the screw a little bit more in each passing year.

          Google doesn't have to actually make any content, they just link to it. This is relatively cheap.

          If you're actually producing content (that isn't AI slop), you don't get the benefit of that sort of scale. There's no way to automate it.

          • hogwasher 5 hours ago

            Google also takes the lion's share of the ad revenue. They're the reason youtube creators resort to sponsorships instead of relying on youtube's inbuilt ads. They even put ads on the videos of new youtube accounts and profit off them while telling said new accounts that they can't get any of that revenue for their own work until they hit Google's arbitrary threshold of subscribers/views. And they've been abusing the hell out of their chokehold monopoly on ads, via adsense, at every level of the system.

            Point being, the fact that google ads currently don't yield much revenue per click/view for most people isn't necessarily just because they are ads.

            Even so, corporations will never voluntarily conclude that they're making enough ad money. Line must go up, forever, because reasons.

      • Ukv 2 days ago

        Have always felt it's not really any different to allowing a website to run a JS crypto miner. It moves money (which is why it's done) but wastes resources (time/energy) so is on net a detriment to affordability.

        • Wowfunhappy 2 days ago

          So then how do you think websites should make money?

      • fsflover 2 days ago

        Ads are intentional psychological manipulation, and nobody should be thankful to anyone allowing this. See also: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43595269

  • dundarious 2 days ago

    I am just today experience an issue where the volume is reset 100% for each ad. Ads play, I turn volume down to 8%, I have the tab still on display (though I have focus on a separate window), and when the 1st ad ends, the 2nd ad is as loud as 100% even though the slider remains at 8%. Click to reset it to 8%, then 3rd ad plays at 100%.

    • NewJazz 2 days ago

      Not sure if this applies, but might be worth consideration

      https://www.gov.ca.gov/2025/10/06/no-more-loud-commercials-g...

      • samtheDamned 2 days ago

        ha! This was my first thought too. Ridiculous behavior either way, ads have gotten out of control.

    • maskull 2 days ago

      I noticed during the olympics that they would hide the in-page volume controls during commercials. I hadn't seen that before. Fortunately it's still possible to mute via the tab control.

  • tencentshill 2 days ago

    Drink verification can to continue

    • Havoc 2 days ago

      That was my immediate reaction too. Can't believe how prescient a 4chan post about a doritos munching neckbeard was

      13 years ago. For those not in the loop:

      https://imgur.com/please-drink-verification-can-dgGvgKF

      • inigyou 2 days ago

        And they can do it now that Sony's patent on this technology has expired!

    • bombcar 2 days ago

      It’s getting more invasive. Drink the damn can.

    • MiiMe19 2 days ago

      I was thinking the same thing lmao

  • ortusdux 2 days ago

    I think it was the MPAA that tried to develop DVD players with cameras so they could count room occupancy and lock the content if you were tying to exceed the terms of their license.

    • deltoidmaximus 2 days ago

      Was it Sony that had the patent on a device that would require the watcher to say the product name out loud to the microphone to continue watching? The product to my knowledge doesn't exist but the patent for it did.

    • Legend2440 2 days ago

      Please drink verification can.

      (This never happened though. The MPAA did a lot of shady things with DRM, but not this.)

    • throwaway85825 2 days ago

      I believe this was a Microsoft patent related to the kinect.

  • inigyou 2 days ago
  • SunshineTheCat 2 days ago

    This is related but also kinda an aside: has anyone been able to find a solid, reliable ad blocker for Twitch?

    Brave use to block it for a while by default (it does great on YouTube ads).

    There also use to be a ping pong between Twitch and some chrome extensions which worked temporarily and then Twitch broke a week later.

    The best I've been able to find is Alternate Player for Twitch.tv which does hide the ads (essentially freezing the stream while they play), but I have been unable to keep the stream playing ad free for quite some time.

    • vodofrede 2 days ago

      Firefox, uBlock Origin, then follow the linked section of the Twitch Ad Solutions GH. This has worked for me for a very long time. Use the VAFT script. https://github.com/pixeltris/TwitchAdSolutions?tab=readme-ov...

    • baal80spam 2 days ago

      > The best I've been able to find is Alternate Player for Twitch.tv which does hide the ads (essentially freezing the stream while they play), but I have been unable to keep the stream playing ad free for quite some time.

      This is not my experience. Alternate Player for Twitch.tv essentially ignores twitch ads for me. Using Brave, not sure if this is relevant.

      • sunaookami a day ago

        Same but Firefox. The stream quality is downgraded to ~360p while an ad plays though. But I rarely watch Twitch so eh, good enough for me. And it gets rid of all the cancerous ADHD-ridden stuff.

  • PeterStuer 2 days ago

    Twitch has been speedrunning their own demise. Maybe the people on charge have personally invested heavily in Kick?

    • jeffwask 2 days ago

      When it stopped being about people playing games and became discount reality TV, it's death nell was rung.

      • throwaway85825 2 days ago

        The trashiest moved to kick. Twitch is mostly soft porn now.

        • neko_ranger 2 days ago

          Thank you for telling me where they went so I know not to go there

          • slumberlust 2 days ago

            Right, but which streams specifically...so I can block them of course.

            • throwaway85825 2 days ago

              There is an online community forum that discusses the individuals in the trash streams that will go unmentioned.

      • duxup 2 days ago

        Even when it was about games there was an absurd amount of "games ... but the host has almost uncovered boobs pointed at the screen" content.

        Felt like Twitch was always teetering on the edge and really nobody with any power cared to avoid the inevitable.

      • impish9208 2 days ago

        *Its death knell was rung :)

    • dogleash 2 days ago

      > Maybe the people on charge have personally invested heavily in Kick?

      Twitch is owned by Amazon. AWS sells the streaming tech Twitch uses to Kick.

      Amazon would probably rather sell IVS to Kick than try and figure out how to make Twitch profitable. Or the just don't care enough to notice the people at Twitch are just LARPing at business.

    • Ekaros a day ago

      I think fundamental truth is that live streaming live content was never financially great business. Most popular creators could make it out, but platforms have heavy costs.

    • quickthrowman 2 days ago

      It’s owned by Amazon, a publicly traded company. They squeeze as hard as they can, and then some to hit those quarterly numbers.

  • nozzlegear 2 days ago

    > Avoid minimizing or muting Twitch for a better experience.

    Someone correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm under the impression that it's not possible for javascript to detect that you've muted the browser tab itself, at least. Doesn't solve the problem of them checking whether you have the tab focused, of course, but it should be mutable.

    • hedora 2 days ago

      I suspect this is one of the less nefarious reasons age verification is getting pushed so hard. 2026: you need a webcam to prove your age. 2030: we know you have a webcam because you verified your age. It must be left on with echo cancellation and background noise suppression disabled so we can hear the ad we are playing.

      <insert obvious ways in which this will be misused here>

      • naikrovek 2 days ago

        that's the thing about advertisers. people who don't want to see them get very good at ignoring them, and finding ways to prevent them entirely via technical means.

        this means that advertisers must constantly move the "we won't cross this" line further and further into absurdity. it will never stop. not ever, not so long as people have things to sell.

        i hope i'm dead when ad viewing only counts when you buy the advertised product.

        "Thank you for your Twitch subscription. You've used all of your paid time, and can no longer view streams. But, good news, buy 1 product advertised to you in the next 15 minutes and you'll get another 24 hours of streaming!"

        then watch as they increase the number of products you must buy while decreasing the number of hours you get from it.

        it will never ever stop.

        advertising should be illegal or be highly regulated. the arms race between viewer and advertiser will never stop until one or both of those things happen.

        • inigyou 2 days ago

          At that point why wouldn't they just make you pay money directly to Twitch, and skip the ad nonsense?

          • bombcar 2 days ago

            Because you will always be worth a bit more as an advertising target + subscriber than you will as just a subscriber.

            • inigyou 2 days ago

              Doesn't that depend how much you pay? You can pay $2.50 to the soft drink company for your verification can, and Twitch receives $0.10 - why would either you or Twitch prefer that to you giving Twitch $0.50?

              • bombcar 2 days ago

                Because Twitch would rather get the $0.50 and the ten cents from verification.

                • hedora a day ago

                  Also, if they let you pay $0.50 to get rid of the ads, then their ad audience instantaneously turns into "people who do not have $0.50 of disposable income".

  • JeremyStinson 2 days ago

    In addition to what Twitch is doing, a banner popped up in the Android YouTube app stating that you need to upgrade to Premium to be able to "Jump Ahead to parts other users think are valuable". Different from skipping 10 seconds at a time, but there's a non-zero chance that'll be pay-walled too.

    It'll only be a matter of time until you can't do anything but watch whatever content Google has curated for you, with no chance to adjust anything at all.

    • KomoD a day ago

      > a banner popped up in the Android YouTube app stating that you need to upgrade to Premium to be able to "Jump Ahead to parts other users think are valuable".

      You can still scrub the video manually, that's just a separate "Jump ahead" button that skips past the most skipped section.

      I don't have a problem with it because they didn't take anything away from me.

    • EmptyCoffeeCup 2 days ago

      At that point, you stop watching, right?

      Youtube isn't some life or death resource - if they go too far, users will switch off.

    • dogleash a day ago

      > Premium to be able to "Jump Ahead to parts other users think are valuable".

      This is Google's euphemism for building a SponsorBlock equivlient into youtube. It just sounds terrible if they come out and tell you that in addition to removing their ads, they're selling an adblocker. They don't want you adblocking their ads, but they'll gladly charge you to do it to someone else.

  • j1elo 2 days ago

    Why does the Window Manager have to provide focus and even visibility info to the application? I could foresee an evolution of runtime controls where "Is Focused" is a user-selectable permission for apps, just like how the browser requires user approval to allow web notifications or PeerConnection access to network or webcams.

    • iroddis 2 days ago

      I think this case was the browser was active, but not the tab, so the browser reports that.

      Many, many telemetry metrics have been added in the name of power and efficiency. If a page refreshes every 30 seconds, is it still worthwhile doing it when the tab isn’t active? It would be better to wait until the tab is active again, then refresh immediately.

      That being said, all of these capabilities are a privacy nightmare, only increasing the precision of browser fingerprinting and user monitoring. Firefox could have taken a stance on refusing to implement them, but I don’t think it has an easy opt out.

      • pseudalopex 2 days ago

        Disable Page Visibility extension is available for Chrome and Firefox. And StopTheMadness for macOS Safari.

    • redox99 2 days ago

      Because it's pretty useful, for example to avoid refreshing data if the tab is unfocused and refresh immediately on focus.

  • TulliusCicero 2 days ago

    Long ad breaks were real annoying on Twitch, I try to watch the same streamers on YouTube now if possible, since I have a YouTube family subscription (seems like avoiding ads on Twitch requires a subscription to each streamer?).

    That YouTube is much better technically (e.g. immediate rewinding) is also a nice bonus.

    Edit: I'm seeing now that there's something called Twitch Turbo for $12/month to avoid ads, though YT premium family still seems like a better deal as long as you have 2+ people for it, since you also get a YouTube music sub and, y'know, no ads on the rest of YouTube proper.

    • jeffwask 2 days ago

      Twitch Turbo used to be Twitch Prime and was free with your Prime subscription.

      • jasomill 2 days ago

        You can get a free subscription to a single Twitch channel per month with Prime.

        Twitch Turbo is site wide.

        IIRC other Twitch Prime benefits (free games, DLC, etc.) were rolled in to the Amazon Gaming brand, and more recently Luna.

  • impute 2 days ago

    "for a better experience"

    Do people writing this type of copy actually believe this?

    • ratelimitsteve 2 days ago

      you'd be amazed what you can believe when eating food and sleeping indoors depends on that belief

      • hn92726819 2 days ago

        You may be surprised to hear that many people work to make a living and then just go home. Not every employee has to drink the kool aid to make a living.

    • toss1 2 days ago

      They don't specify who gets the "better experience" (hint: it is them, harvesting the ad dollars)

    • chmod775 2 days ago

      No, they do not. They just value their silicon valley paycheck over personal integrity.

      And really, this isn't a big deal. It's a bold lie everyone can see through, but it's not nearly as consequential as other bold lies society tolerates or is complicit in. Many of these lies make modern society function in the first place - they're necessary fictions everyone participates in.

      This lie is... laughably irrelevant, which is why calling it out won't make you a pariah. People are jumping at the chance to point and laugh when doing so carries no consequence.

      Other examples of inconsequential bullshit: "Your call is very important to us", "We value your privacy", "We're like family here", and "It's not about the money".

      tl;dr: "whatever."

  • MiddleEndian 2 days ago
  • andrewflnr 2 days ago

    This is something that browsers should solve.

    • kg 2 days ago

      Unfortunately, browsers "solved" this by intentionally adding APIs that enable websites to do this to you. It wasn't possible to abuse users this way until the relevant APIs for detecting focus and occlusion were added. :(

    • BenjiWiebe 2 days ago

      Open a new browser window just for that tab. Presto, that tab is always active, even if that window is underneath another window.

      In Firefox you can drag'n'drop a tab "out" of the tab bar, which will move it to a new window. Might work in other browsers too.

    • benhurmarcel 2 days ago

      Browsers are funded by ads

  • haunter 2 days ago

    vaft with uBlock Origin works perfectly https://github.com/pixeltris/TwitchAdSolutions

  • arkaic a day ago

    When those commercials start playing at the gas pump I instinctively turn away out of sheer principal.

  • thih9 2 days ago

    In some way it’s a feature, leaves more room for products that are more user friendly. Of course overall it's still bad; this framing gives me some hope at least.

    • nyeah 2 days ago

      Yeah. But anything bad does that.

    • organsnyder 2 days ago

      They'd all enshittify in similar ways if they got traction.

  • CamperBob2 2 days ago

    Just think. No matter how bad a day you're having at the office, somebody had to come to work and implement this.

    • jraph 2 days ago

      And could have decided not to work for Amazon in the first place.

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  • add-sub-mul-div 2 days ago

    Maybe Spotify didn't do this first but they're the ones I blame. They pause an ad while the output is muted.

    • djhn a day ago

      Which platform is that on? How would they know the operating system sound levels?

  • Pooge 2 days ago

    Is there an about:config setting to disallow JavaScript access to tabs?

  • red-iron-pine 2 days ago

    so basically a more upbeat version of that Black Mirror episode?

  • ThePowerOfFuet a day ago
  • jackdoe 2 days ago

    > claude fork chromium, remove the api so it knows if the tab is open, always return true, compile it and replace my current chrome with it

    • cosmic_cheese 2 days ago

      All this is also a great argument for just not making browsers capable of conveying this kind of information in the first place…

      Some might argue that it allows for better web apps, but the delta between how much better in can make web apps and how much poorer it can make the overall web experience is too great to be worth it, and that's before one gets into the privacy implications of browsers being so eager to share all these little nuggets of info.

    • toomuchtodo 2 days ago
    • nticompass 2 days ago

      > use firefox, install uBlock Origin

      • hedora 2 days ago

        This is the only correct answer. The second firefox is actually no longer viable, I guarantee you chrome is going to rapidly go closed source or require software attestation to prevent modification (not sure what the analogous plan for Safari will be, but it won’t be good).

        The passkey stuff is a step in this direction.

        • jasomill 2 days ago

          Passkeys work with Firefox.

          • hedora a day ago

            So does DRM. In the long run, web sites will end up requiring measured boot to use passkeys, and also require passkeys. This is already common practice with android (to prevent third party ROMs from working).

    • TulliusCicero 2 days ago

      Seems like something a plugin could solve.

  • commandlinefan 2 days ago

    That was a black mirror episode.

  • xeonmc 2 days ago

    This is nothing. Wait until you see what the eye-tracking technology Amazon has been developing for their workers could be used for.

  • ozlikethewizard 2 days ago

    Friendly reminder to use a browser you can disable the active tab apis in, IronFox / LibreWolf are both great (Mobile / Desktop), Firefox if you value convenience the most.

  • EarlKing 2 days ago

    It's like someone saw an episode of Black Mirror and Idiocracy and went, "That's it! That's what we need to do!" and began using them as a playbook.

    Yeah, I'm sure this won't drive massive adoption of ad blockers or anything.

    • hydrogen7800 2 days ago

      Good fiction writers seem to have a very deep understanding of human behavior, both as individuals and groups/systems. It's probably a combination of art imitating life, imitating art, and part prediction based on this understanding how human behavior and human systems evolve and interact.