Pi – a minimal terminal coding harness

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100 points | by kristianpaul 2 hours ago ago

44 comments

  • rcarmo an hour ago

    My current fave harness. I've been using it to great effect, since it is self-extensible, and added support for it to https://github.com/rcarmo/vibes because it is so much faster than ACP.

    • badlogic an hour ago

      wow, i love this! was about to build this myself, but this looks exactly what i want.

      • rcarmo an hour ago

        The better web UI is now part of https://github.com/rcarmo/piclaw (which is essentially the same, but with more polish and a claw-like memory system). So you can pick if you want TS or Python as the back-end :)

        • badlogic an hour ago

          if i ever want a claw, i'd obv. go with this :)

          • rcarmo 41 minutes ago

            The claw version’s web UI essentially has better thinking output, more visibility of tool calls, and slightly better SSE streaming. I’ve backported some of it to vibes, but if you want to borrow UI stuff, the better bits are in piclaw. I use both constantly on my phone/desktop.

  • mccoyb 42 minutes ago

    Pi has made all the right design choices. Shout out to Mario (and Armin the OG stan) — great taste shows itself.

    • semiinfinitely 23 minutes ago

      I do not understand why in the age of ai coding we would implement this in javascript

      • mccoyb 17 minutes ago

        It’s straightforward: JavaScript is a dynamic language, which allows code (for instance, code implementing an extension to the harness) to be executed and loaded while the harness is running.

        This is quite nice — I do think there’s a version of pi’s design choices which could live in a static harness, but fully covering the same capabilities as pi without a dynamic language would be difficult. (You could imagine specifying a programmable UI, etc — various ways to extend the behavior of the system, and you’d like end up with an interpreter in the harness)

        At least, you’d like to have a way to hot reload code (Elixir / Erlang could be interesting)

        This is my intuition, at least.

      • alvivar 17 minutes ago

        One thing in its favor is that it was kind of easy and simple to extend and contribute to and share extensions. JavaScript/node is still the biggest dev environment. The same can be said for OpenClaw.

      • Blackarea 18 minutes ago

        yes! I just don't understand that as well. Up until some time ago claud code's preferred install was a npm i, wasn't it? Please serious answers for why anyone would use a web language for a terminal app

  • muratsu 15 minutes ago

    I’m working with a friend to build an ui around Pi to make it more user friendly for people who prefer to work with a gui (ala conductor). You can check out the repo: https://github.com/philipp-spiess/modern

  • himata4113 an hour ago
  • rahimnathwani 37 minutes ago

    Hugging Face now provides instructions for using local models in Pi:

    https://x.com/victormustar/status/2026380984866710002

  • mongrelion 44 minutes ago

    Pi ships with powerful defaults but skips features like sub-agents and plan mode

    Does anyone have an idea as to why this would be a feature? don't you want to have a discussion with your agent to iron out the details before moving onto the implementation (build) phase?

    In any case, looks cool :)

    EDIT 1: Formatting EDIT 2: Thanks everyone for your input. I was not aware of the extensibility model that pi had in mind or that you can also iterate your plan on a PLAN.md file. Very interesting approach. I'll have a look and give it a go.

    • ramoz 43 minutes ago

      See my comment in the thread but there is an intuitive extension architecture that makes integrating these type of things feel native.

      https://github.com/badlogic/pi-mono/tree/main/packages/codin...

    • alvivar 41 minutes ago

      I plan all the time. I just tell Pi to create a Plan.md file, and we iterate on it until we are ready to implement.

    • miroljub 41 minutes ago

      Check https://pi.dev/packages

      There are already multiple implementations of everything.

      With a powerful and extensible core, you don't need everything prepackaged.

  • ge96 an hour ago

    Is that an official term "coding harness"

    Wondering if you wanted a similar interface (though a GUI not just CLI) where it's not for coding what would you call that?

    Same idea cycle through models, ask question, drag-drop images, etc...

    • arcanemachiner 12 minutes ago

      Yes. It seems to be the term that stands out the most, as terms like "AI coding assistant", "agentic coding framework", etc. are too vague to really differentiate these tools.

      "harness" fits pretty nicely IMO. It can be used as a single word, and it's not too semantically overloaded to be useful in this context.

    • rcarmo an hour ago

      LLM harness has been in vogue for a year now…

      • outofpaper an hour ago

        A harness is a collection of stubs and drivers configured to assist with automation or testing. It's a standard term often used in QA as they've been automating things for ages before Gen Ai came on to the scene.

        • arcanemachiner 15 minutes ago

          Yes, it is also a device used to control the movement of work animals, which farmers have been using for ages before QA came on to the scene.

  • suralind 29 minutes ago

    I’ve been testing it for a few days on pretty much clean install (no customizations/extensions) and it’s ok. Not sure if I like it yet.

  • ramoz an hour ago

    The way you’re able to extend the harness through extension/hook architecture is really cool.

    Eg some form of comprehensive planning/spec workflow is best modeled as an extension vs natively built in. And the extension still ends up feeling “native” in use

  • jmorgan 2 hours ago

    I've been using Pi day to day recently for simple, smaller tasks. It's a great harness for use with smaller parameter size models given the system prompt is quite a bit shorter vs Claude or Codex (and it uses a nice small set of tools by default).

    • rpastuszak 10 minutes ago

      Which models do you use and what for? I'm looking for ideas to play with.

  • arjie 2 hours ago

    Has anyone used an open coding agent in headless mode? I have a system cobbled together with exceptions going to a centralized system where I can then have each one pulled out and `claude -p`'d but I'd rather just integrate an open coding agent into the loop because it's less janky and then I'll have it try to fix the problem and propose a PR for me to review. If anyone else has used pi.dev or opencode or aider in this mode (completely non-interactive until the PR) I'd be curious to hear.

    EDIT: Thank you to both responders. I'll just try the two options out then.

    • fred_tandemai an hour ago

      Been using pi exactly for this and it's working great!

    • evalstate an hour ago

      fast-agent lets you do this as well (and has a skill in its default skills repo to help with automation/running in container/hf job).

    • rcarmo an hour ago

      You probably want to look into pi then - it's extremely extensible.

    • dosinga an hour ago

      you can run https://block.github.io/goose/ in headless mode (I work on goose)

  • infruset an hour ago

    Note there is a fork oh-my-pi: https://github.com/can1357/oh-my-pi of https://blog.can.ac/2026/02/12/the-harness-problem/ fame. I use it as a daily driver but I also love pi.

  • lukasb 33 minutes ago

    But I can't use my Codex plan with it, right? I have to use an API key?

    • mccoyb 31 minutes ago

      You can use your Codex plan with it. OpenAI endorsed it several weeks ago, as far as I remember. That could change, however, but now seems safe.

  • fred_tandemai an hour ago

    Anyone managed to run pi in a completely sandboxed environment? It can only access the cwd and subdirectories

  • cyanydeez 2 hours ago

    The backing to OpenClaw/MoltBot whatever they're calling themselves. Why is it insecure, well, Pi tells you >No permission popups.

    Anyway, even if you give your agent permission, there's no secure way to know whether what they're asking to is what they'll actually do, etc.

    • himata4113 an hour ago

      you want to put agents in a sandbox instead such as bwrap anyways.

  • cermicelli 2 hours ago

    Just how expensive was that domain?

    • jotaen 2 hours ago

      README on Github says “pi.dev domain graciously donated by exe.dev” (though that doesn’t say anything about the original price of course).