What are you trying to convey? That concentration camps are good, actually? Or that people only feel otherwise today because they're liberal hypocrites?
My read of this account is that they're deeply conservative, and like to take every example of a terrible thing the current administration is doing as an opportunity to "both sides" it in order to attempt to normalize how bad the current administration is.
They have never condemned the current administration for doing this without also "whatabouting" the Obama administration.
So to answer your question, they will say they're doing the "liberal hypocrites" song and dance, but in reality they're working towards a case that "Actually concentration camps aren't that bad, because 'both sides' do them."
In practice most people actually on the left can recognize that the Obama administration (and the Bush, Clinton and Biden administrations) were deeply flawed, but they are still lightyears better than the Concentration camps of the current administration which are detaining children and separating them from their families based on which side of a line they fall on, on a map (or more likely, the color of their skin).
It's funny because Rick's examples always what-about the Obama administration which makes it likely a dog-whistle.
Rick, if you want to beat the allegations, please condemn the current administration for their actions if you think they're wrong. We already know what you think about Obama, so you can just call out the current administration without mentioning other administrations.
I am glad you feel that _I_ have a high level of compassion for my fellow humans.
If someone posts "but Obama" in response to a bunch of -hand written letters from children in what I consider to be a literal concentration camp- then I'm going to think that person has transcended a lack of "integrity" or "critical thinking skills" into becoming a literal monster.
This is the account's M.O. You can see my response above, but basically as far as I can tell they're deeply conservative, and they try and position themselves as a like "rational centrist" by doing this "both sides" Dance.
The giveaway that you've noticed, is they never actually condemn the existing administration without also comparing them to Obama (and for reasons beyond me, specifically Obama and not say, Biden, Bush 1/2, Clinton).
big hint: how many computer-literate people do you know that would put their whole-ass name as their HN handle, in 2026? none i'd professionally associate with, thats for sure
Having an excuse for why you still haven't filled out the fourth-quadrent "unknown unknowns", doesn't make you "better".
It's entirely possible to dislike BHO for racist reasons, just like it's possible to think both he and the Bushes are literal war criminals for consistent reasons.
I think GWB is a war criminal who had a better understanding of North/South migration than BHO. I still think both of them, and about anyone who supports DJT for any reasons, are pretty vicious.
And, like I said, literal all folks who like DJT and dislike BHO are birthers of various stripes. That's my lived experience. Maybe you're some kind of unicorn, who knows.
Obama's been a private citizen for nearly a decade, so inserting him into the conversation suggests your rubric for integrity and critical thinking skills is in grave disrepair.
I've read this before. The first time you posted this.
Your obsession with Obama and ignorance of current events are well known to me and everyone else who reads this site regularly.
Please make an effort to apply your purported critical thinking sklls and claimed integrity rather than reposting one article repeatedly.
Being unwilling to differentiate between two obiously different forms of badness—both in kind and in quantity—is intentional ignorance and is antithetical to the curious conversation expected of this community.
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It is indeed a problem: the US gov itself trafficked half a million folks or so in 2025.
What are you trying to convey? That concentration camps are good, actually? Or that people only feel otherwise today because they're liberal hypocrites?
My read of this account is that they're deeply conservative, and like to take every example of a terrible thing the current administration is doing as an opportunity to "both sides" it in order to attempt to normalize how bad the current administration is.
They have never condemned the current administration for doing this without also "whatabouting" the Obama administration.
So to answer your question, they will say they're doing the "liberal hypocrites" song and dance, but in reality they're working towards a case that "Actually concentration camps aren't that bad, because 'both sides' do them."
In practice most people actually on the left can recognize that the Obama administration (and the Bush, Clinton and Biden administrations) were deeply flawed, but they are still lightyears better than the Concentration camps of the current administration which are detaining children and separating them from their families based on which side of a line they fall on, on a map (or more likely, the color of their skin).
It's funny because Rick's examples always what-about the Obama administration which makes it likely a dog-whistle.
Rick, if you want to beat the allegations, please condemn the current administration for their actions if you think they're wrong. We already know what you think about Obama, so you can just call out the current administration without mentioning other administrations.
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I am glad you feel that _I_ have a high level of compassion for my fellow humans.
If someone posts "but Obama" in response to a bunch of -hand written letters from children in what I consider to be a literal concentration camp- then I'm going to think that person has transcended a lack of "integrity" or "critical thinking skills" into becoming a literal monster.
This is the account's M.O. You can see my response above, but basically as far as I can tell they're deeply conservative, and they try and position themselves as a like "rational centrist" by doing this "both sides" Dance.
The giveaway that you've noticed, is they never actually condemn the existing administration without also comparing them to Obama (and for reasons beyond me, specifically Obama and not say, Biden, Bush 1/2, Clinton).
Here he is 36 days ago doing the same thing: https://news.ycombinator.com/threads?id=RickJWagner&next=466...
big hint: how many computer-literate people do you know that would put their whole-ass name as their HN handle, in 2026? none i'd professionally associate with, thats for sure
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I mean, I think the internet would be better if folks didn't share theinr in-humane and, frankly, monstrous opinions.
Do better, brah.
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Why is this your primary concern?
because in his mind "it's worse to be a hypocrite than it is to torture children."
He just doesn't realize how he's also a hypocrite, so he can't hold himself accountable to his own opinion.
Well, doing 3 parts of a 4-part matrix just makes him look like your run of the mill racist. Easy math.
Almost all the folks who I know who are cool with Trump but don't like Obama are some flavor of birther.
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Having an excuse for why you still haven't filled out the fourth-quadrent "unknown unknowns", doesn't make you "better".
It's entirely possible to dislike BHO for racist reasons, just like it's possible to think both he and the Bushes are literal war criminals for consistent reasons.
I think GWB is a war criminal who had a better understanding of North/South migration than BHO. I still think both of them, and about anyone who supports DJT for any reasons, are pretty vicious.
And, like I said, literal all folks who like DJT and dislike BHO are birthers of various stripes. That's my lived experience. Maybe you're some kind of unicorn, who knows.
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I mean, why don't you lose your mind that Trump is doing it? If it was so bad when Obama did it, then you're the hypocrite here.
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Obama's been a private citizen for nearly a decade, so inserting him into the conversation suggests your rubric for integrity and critical thinking skills is in grave disrepair.
... and if you can't differentiate between the badness of Obama and the badness of Trump you have neither integrity nor critical thinking skills.
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I've read this before. The first time you posted this.
Your obsession with Obama and ignorance of current events are well known to me and everyone else who reads this site regularly.
Please make an effort to apply your purported critical thinking sklls and claimed integrity rather than reposting one article repeatedly.
Being unwilling to differentiate between two obiously different forms of badness—both in kind and in quantity—is intentional ignorance and is antithetical to the curious conversation expected of this community.
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A lot of them were trafficked by Epstein. Release the files or no?
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