The cost is stupidly high, though. Look at the source code of [1].
The only good page to take from OOP book is the automatic and implicit pseudo-variable "self" or "this", that can reduce stack juggling significantly. I've implemented that in my (yet to be published) dialect and it works like a charm. In my experience, you can have that for cheap and anything more is not worth it from the point of view of a byte-counting Forth programmer.
This is made by the company the inventor of the language created. Then he left it because Forth, inc. needed the language to be standardized, which wasn't his idea of Forth and, his point of view is that he solved the software problems and what was left was solving the hardware problems, so he moved to working on stack-based processors.
Swift Forth is literally a professional Forth and is well regarded. The other often recommend Forth is the FOSS GForth. They are good for starting because they are popular and standard, so you'll find help easily.
Other "smaller" Forth are often non-standard dialects and are more-or-less mature experiments.
Gforth is free and well rounded so I'd recommend that if you want to experiment with Forth. It is not very fast though, SwiftForth with optimised subroutine threading will be a lot faster. I haven't tried SwiftForth though as you have to pay for it and it is x86 only.
if you are working with specific hardware (e.g. microcontrollers) it depends on which forth dialects are available but for the raspberry pico and pico 2 I recently found zeptoforth [1]
Object-oriented Forth? Far out.
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The Featured Forth Applications page [1] answered a lot of my questions.
1: https://www.forth.com/resources/forth-apps/
> Object-oriented Forth? Far out.
The cost is stupidly high, though. Look at the source code of [1].
The only good page to take from OOP book is the automatic and implicit pseudo-variable "self" or "this", that can reduce stack juggling significantly. I've implemented that in my (yet to be published) dialect and it works like a charm. In my experience, you can have that for cheap and anything more is not worth it from the point of view of a byte-counting Forth programmer.
[1] https://vfxforth.com/flag/swoop/index.html
x86 only on Mac is one of the decisions of all time.
Especially for $400
Me thinking this was a Forth IDE implementated in Swift UI.
So we had quite a deluge of Forth options recently :), not that I am complaining. As someone who doesn't use Forth much, which one is used the most?
This one for example looks like well rounded and user friendly option.
Would anyone care to comment about this?
This is made by the company the inventor of the language created. Then he left it because Forth, inc. needed the language to be standardized, which wasn't his idea of Forth and, his point of view is that he solved the software problems and what was left was solving the hardware problems, so he moved to working on stack-based processors.
Swift Forth is literally a professional Forth and is well regarded. The other often recommend Forth is the FOSS GForth. They are good for starting because they are popular and standard, so you'll find help easily.
Other "smaller" Forth are often non-standard dialects and are more-or-less mature experiments.
Gforth is free and well rounded so I'd recommend that if you want to experiment with Forth. It is not very fast though, SwiftForth with optimised subroutine threading will be a lot faster. I haven't tried SwiftForth though as you have to pay for it and it is x86 only.
gForth [0] is great for getting started
if you are working with specific hardware (e.g. microcontrollers) it depends on which forth dialects are available but for the raspberry pico and pico 2 I recently found zeptoforth [1]
or you know you can always bootstrap your own :)
[0] https://gforth.org [1] https://github.com/tabemann/zeptoforth
And here I thought this was some sort of cross-platform Swift-Forth hybrid