129 points | by OutOfHere 4 hours ago ago

8 comments

  • egonschiele 2 hours ago

    > The DHS asked Meta for their names and details on September 11, and the users were notified about it on October 3

    Wow, so this was before all the ICE activity in MN blew up. My paranoid brain is wondering what they are doing with the data. Anyone here working on something like this (maybe at a company like Palantir) and willing to tell your story in a throwaway account?

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    • OutOfHere 2 hours ago

      If I may speculate within reason:

      1. The people will be added permanently to watchlists, potentially even to domestic terrorist lists.

      2. They will be checked to ensure they're US citizens. If they're US residents but not US citizens, they could be in serious trouble.

      3. They will be monitored extra closely whenever they fly into the country. It is very likely that they will be given a special search treatment, both digitally and physically.

      4. Some of these people will be detained to make a point, based entirely on bogus charges. In the process of being detained, physically injury is very possible. Note that detention can mean death if one's medical requirements are not met, and they generally aren't. Also, the food they serve to detained persons has mold and worms.

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      So what's the proper solution? A platform with better cryptography! It can technically allow posts and comments to belong to a user, but not be traceable back to the user! When asked by the government who made a particular post or comment, it should not be possible for the platform to readily identify who made it. Of course the IP address should not be tracked either, certainly not beyond 24h. The logged in user would still be able to view and manage all of their posts and comments, also see responses, because they would have the cryptography key to do so. So what about spam and guardrail control -- one solution is to let AI classify it. More can be possible with cleverer uses of cryptography.

      • embedding-shape 2 hours ago

        > potentially even to domestic terrorist lists

        Isn't this clearly the goal, not just "potentially"? Given they added a bunch of non-right-wing organizations to their "domestic terrorist list", even going so far as to add not just organizations, but also anyone who is against fascism can now be considered a "domestic terrorist".

        It's so crystal clear what is happening from the outside, and also clear what's gonna happen in the next "elections" that people seem to think will be without interference. Why it seems like people are just accepting their fate at this point?

  • buckle8017 3 hours ago
    • embedding-shape 3 hours ago

      Only judging by the titles:

      > Homeland Security Wants Social Media Sites to Expose Anti-ICE Accounts

      Makes it sound like they're planning to do this, somehow.

      > Homeland Security has sent out subpoenas to identify ICE critics

      Makes it sound like they're already actively engaging in this.

      Maybe they're similar enough to be considered dupe, but seems they're different to me.

      • buckle8017 2 hours ago

        The NYTimes headline is inaccurate, they're taking about subpoenas being sent already.

    • rolandog 2 hours ago

      How do dupes work here? If it's a different article (Engadget is not the NYTimes), but it's paywalled, is it worth pointing to it?