Television is 100 years old today

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364 points | by qassiov 8 hours ago ago

116 comments

  • timonoko 2 hours ago

    I saw TV first time in 1957. Finland had no TV transmitters, so programs came from Soviet Estonia. I distinctly remember watching romantic Russian film with a catching tune. Perhaps named "Moscow Lights"?

    How this is even possible that I remember all this, because I was 4 yrs old?

    Gemini knows:

    The Film: In the Days of the Spartakiad (1956/1957)

    The song "Moscow Nights" was originally written for a documentary film called "In the Days of the Spartakiad" (V dni spartakiady), which chronicled a massive Soviet sports competition.

    The Scene: In the film, there is a romantic, quiet scene where athletes are resting in the countryside near Moscow at night.

    The Music: The song was sung by Vladimir Troshin. It was intended to be background music, but it was so hauntingly melodic that it became an overnight sensation across the USSR and its neighbors.

    The Finnish Connection: In 1957, the song became a massive hit in Finland and Estonia. Since you were watching Estonian TV, you likely saw a version where the dialogue or narration was dubbed into Finnish—a common practice for broadcasts intended for Finnish-speaking audiences across the Gulf of Finland.

    • therein 2 hours ago

      I easily have many memories from age 4. I think I even remember the first time that I started forming memories. It was a few years before that, I had come out of my room and saw some toys I was playing with the night before. I realized they were at the same spot I left them, which made me realize the world had permanence and my awareness had continuity. I could leave things at a certain spot and they would be there the next day, that I could build things and they would stay that way. I realized I could remember things, in a way like "homo sapiens sapiens" being thinking about thinking, I realized I remember that I could remember.

      • tgtweak 2 hours ago

        Definitely have some memories from 3 years old - some people claim earlier and I wouldn't doubt that, although it's very rare for memories before 2 to be recalled episodically.

        • rubslopes 33 minutes ago

          I have one memory that I can place between late 2 and early 3: my mum telling me I was going to have a brother. When he was born, I was 3 years and 6 months old.

    • michaelsbradley an hour ago

      My first memory of TV (but not my earliest memory by far) was, at age 4, seeing the first Space Shuttle launch. It was live on a little black-and-white set my parents had in their bedroom.

    • poisonarena an hour ago

      link to "Vladimir Trochin - Moscow nights (1956)" https://youtu.be/fRFScbISKDg?si=UsVHVnlnUnU2SP6v

  • sosomoxie 2 hours ago

    CRTs are peak steam punk technology. Analog, electric, kinda dangerous. Just totally mindblowing that we had these things in our living rooms shooting electric beams everywhere. I doubt it's environmentally friendly at all, but I'd love to see some new CRTs being made.

    • ortusdux an hour ago

      One summer odd-job included an afternoon of throwing a few dozen CRTs off a 3rd floor balcony into a rolloff dumpster. I'da done it for free.

    • cf100clunk 2 hours ago

      The shadow mask system for colour CRTs was a huge improvement that thwarted worries about ''beams everywhere'':

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shadow_mask

    • kazinator 2 hours ago

      With CRTs, the environmental problem is the heavy metals: tons of lead in the glass screen, plus cadmium and whatnot. Supposedly there can be many pounds of lead in a large CRT.

    • fecal_henge 2 hours ago

      Extra dangerous aspect: On really early CRTs they hadn't quite nailed the glass thicknesses. One failure mode was that the neck that held the electron gun would fail. This would propell the gun through the front of the screen, possibly toward the viewer.

      • cf100clunk 2 hours ago

        Likewise, a dropped CRT tube was a constant terror for TV manufacturing and repair folks, as it likely would implode and send zillions of razor-sharp fragments airborne.

        • thomassmith65 10 minutes ago

          My high school science teacher used to share anecdotes from his days in electrical repair.

          He said his coworkers would sometimes toss a television capacitor at each other as a prank.

          Those capacitors retained enough charge to give the person unlucky enough to catch one a considerable jolt.

    • pinnochio 2 hours ago

      We're getting awfully close to recreating CRT qualities with modern display panels. A curved 4:3 1000Hz OLED panel behind glass, and an integrated RetroTink 4K with G-Sync Pulsar support would do it. Then add in a simulated degauss effect and electrical whine and buzzing sounds for fun.

      • soperj 2 hours ago

        still can't play duck hunt on it though.

        • gzalo an hour ago

          Yes you can, see https://neslcdmod.com/

          It basically mods the rom to allow for a bit more latency when checking the hit targets

    • itisit 2 hours ago

      And perhaps peak atompunk too when used as RAM. [0]

      [0] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Williams_tube

      • BizarroLand 10 minutes ago

        Damn, what I wouldn't give to be able to look at my computer and see the bits bobbing in its onboard ram

    • brcmthrowaway 2 hours ago

      The 1940-1990 era of technology can't be beat. Add hard drives and tape to the mix. What happened to electromechanical design? I doubt it would be taught anymore. Everything is solid state

    • joe_the_user 2 hours ago

      Also, I believe precursors to CRT existed in the 19th century. What was unique with television was the creation of a full CRT system that allowed moving picture consumption to be a mass phenomena.

  • Avalaxy an hour ago

    Does anyone here still have television? Ever since I moved out of my parents house (15 years ago), I never had a TV subscription. I did own a TV screen, but only to run apps like Netflix and Youtube. I'd rather have a simple monitor without the TV options to do so, but strangely that never existed or was too expensive.

    Edit: to make it clear, I absolutely did not miss having TV for even a second in all of those years.

    • talla_unica 3 minutes ago

      Over here in some European countries TV license fee is mandatory even if you don't own a set. The licence funds watchable content, so it makes sense to have one. (I kind-of pity the US and other countries without a strong public TV system). Actually I have access to three TV markets via satellite (which includes UK with the BBC) and the amount of good content free to receive and record it much better than what Netflix offers. (Of course, nothing can match youtube)

      BTW, I also still have a CRT in constant use - but the sources are now digital (It's my kitchen background TV - I feed it from a Raspberry PI with Kodi). On great thing about CRTs is that there's no computer inside monitoring what you watch.

    • agumonkey 3 minutes ago

      Kept a few mini portable CRTs. I don't have any CRT monitors though.. sold my beloved diamondtron to a movie editor, sadly transporter probably shook it too hard and the device wasn't operating on arrival (at to refund the guy and lose the screen, double whammy)

    • nabbed an hour ago

      I have some sort of old flat screen TV, which I bought before there were "smart" TVs. But I don't have cable or over-the-air reception. Instead I have a Roku soundbar with Netflix, Apple TV+, and Youtube apps (plus some other apps that I don't use, like Tubi and Pluto). I haven't had cable or over-the-air reception for ~18 years.

      I can't watch anything live unless Youtube is showing some live event (which it sometimes does). I could probably watch some live news using Pluto, but I never do.

    • mghackerlady an hour ago

      My mom still pays for cable, so since I live with her I suppose I have it by proxy. When I move out I'll still be buying one of those digital OTA antennas because I don't watch enough tv to justify a streaming service or cable, and sometimes it's nice to just watch something that's on without much of a choice

    • testing22321 an hour ago

      Colloquially called “the idiot box” in Australia.

      I remember asking as a teenager if that because there are idiots on the box, or because you turn into one when you watch it.

      The answer is “yes”

      Have not had or watched one in well over 20 years.

    • nephihaha 30 minutes ago

      I got rid of mine. Predictable mind numbing content. I do stream occasionally but I have not paid a TV licence in over twenty years.

  • jedberg 5 hours ago

    This is interesting. John Logie Baird did in fact demonstrate something that looked like TV, but the technology was a dead end.

    Philo Farnsworth demonstrated a competing technology a few years later, but every TV today is based on his technology.

    So, who actually invented Television?

    • armadsen 5 hours ago

      For what it’s worth, Philo Farnsworth and John Logie Baird were friendly with each other. I was lucky to know Philo’s wife Pem very well in the last part of her life, and she spoke highly of Baird as a person.

      David Sarnoff and RCA was an entirely different matter, of course…

    • zwischenzug 2 hours ago

      Whatever we all television now, television then was literally "vision at a distance", which Baird was the first to demonstrate (AFAIK).

      The TV I have now in my living room is closer to a computer than a television from when I grew up (born 1975) anyway, so the word could mean all sorts of things. I mean, we still call our pocket computers "phones" even though they are mainly used for viewing cats at a distance.

    • MoonWalk 4 hours ago

      You should read about the invention of color television. There were two competing methods, one of which depended on a spinning wheel with colored filters in it. If I remember correctly, you needed something like a 10-foot wheel to have a 27-inch TV.

      Sure enough, this was the system selected as the winner by the U.S. standard-setting body at the time. Needless to say, it failed and was replaced by what we ended up with... which still sucked because of the horrible decision to go to a non-integer frame rate. Incredibly, we are for some reason still plagued by 29.97 FPS long after the analog system that required it was shut off.

      • eternauta3k 4 hours ago

        Why is an integer frame rate better?

        • zoky 4 hours ago

          For one thing, it’s much easier to measure spans of time when you have an integer frame rate. For example, 1 hour at 30fps is exactly 108,000 frames, but at 29.97 it’s only 107,892 frames. Since frame numbers must all have an integer time code, “drop-frame” time code is used, where each second has a variable number of frames so that by the end of each measured hour the total elapsed time syncs up with the time code, i.e. “01:00:00;00” falls after exactly one hour has passed. This is of course crucial when scheduling programs, advertisements, and so on. It’s a confusing mess and historically has caused all kinds of headaches for the TV industry over the years.

      • iso1631 4 hours ago

        Originally you had 30fps, it was the addition of colour with the NTSC system that dropped it to 30000/1001fps. That wasn't a decision taken lightly -- it was a consequence of retrofitting colour onto a black and white system while maintaining backward compatibility.

        When the UK (and Europe) went colour it changed to a whole new system and didn't have to worry too much about backward compatibility. It had a higher bandwidth (8mhz - so 33% more than NTSC), and was broadcasting on new channels separate to the original 405 lines. It also had features like alternating the phase of every other line to reduce the "tint" or "never twice the same color" problem that NTSC had

        America chose 30fps but then had to slow it by 1/1001ths to avoid interference.

        Of course because by the 90s and the growth of digital, there was already far too much stuff expecting "29.97"hz so it remained, again for backward compatibility.

        • dylan604 34 minutes ago

          understanding the affect of the 1.001 fix has given me tons of job security. That understanding came not from just book learning, but OJT from working in a film/video post house that had engineers, colorists, and editors that were all willing to entertain a young college kid's constant use of "why?". Then being present for the transition from editing film on flat beds to editing film transfers to video. Part of that came from having to transfer audio from tape reels to video by changing to the proper 59.94Hz or 60Hz crystal that was needed to control the player's speed. Also had a studio DAT deck that could slow down the 24fps audio record in the field to playback at 23.976.

          Literally, to this day, am I dealing with all of these decisions made ~100 years ago. The 1.001 math is a bit younger when color was rolled out, but what's a little rounding between friends?

        • Dwedit 3 hours ago

          60 interlaced fields per second, not 30 frames per second. The two fields do not necessarily contribute to the same frame.

          • dylan604 33 minutes ago

            If you get those fields out of sync, you will have problems though, so it's okay to consider them in pairs per frame for sanity's sake.

        • masfuerte 4 hours ago

          In the UK the two earliest channels (BBC1 and ITV) continued to broadcast in the 405 line format (in addition to PAL) until 1985. Owners of ancient televisions had 20 years to upgrade. That doesn't seem unreasonable.

    • throwaway_20357 an hour ago

      Wasn't all this early TV experimentation based on Nipkow disks (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nipkow_disk)?

    • chasil 5 hours ago

      I had a communications theory class in college that addressed "vestigal sideband modulation," which I believe was implemented by Farnsworth. I think this is a critical aspect to the introduction of television technology.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Single-sideband_modulation#Sup...

      • drmpeg 4 hours ago

        VSB came later. From https://www.tvtechnology.com/opinions/hdtv-from-1925-to-1994

        In the United States in 1935, the Radio Corporation of America demonstrated a 343-line television system. In 1936, two committees of the Radio Manufacturers Association (RMA), which is now known as the Consumer Electronics Association, proposed that U.S. television channels be standardized at a bandwidth of 6 MHz, and recommended a 441-line, interlaced, 30 frame-per-second television system. The RF modulation system proposed in this recommendation used double-sideband, amplitude-modulated transmission, limiting the video bandwidth it was capable of carrying to 2.5 MHz. In 1938, this RMA proposal was amended to employ vestigial-sideband (VSB) transmission instead of double sideband. In the vestigial-sideband approach, only the upper sidebands-those above the carrier frequency-plus a small segment or vestige of the lower sidebands, are transmitted. VSB raised the transmitted video bandwidth capability to 4.2 MHz. Subsequently, in 1941, the first National Television Systems Committee adopted the vestigial sideband system using a total line rate of 525 lines that is used in the United States today.

    • gtoubassi an hour ago

      "The Last Lone Inventor: A Tale of Genius, Deceit, and the Birth of Television" is a great book detailing the Farnsworth journey.

    • AndrewDucker 5 hours ago

      There were a great many small breakthroughs over time. Where you draw the line is up to you.

    • joe_the_user 2 hours ago

      The thing is that "television" seemed like a thing but really it was a system that required a variety of connected, compatible parts, like the Internet.

      Different pieces of what became TV existed in 1900, the challenge was putting them together. And that required a consensus among powerful players.

    • tehwebguy 5 hours ago

      Farnsworth…

    • reactordev 4 hours ago

      Baird did. Farnsworth invented the all-electric version (sans mechanical parts).

      A kin to Ed Roberts, John Blakenbaker and Mark Dean invented the personal computer but Apple invented the PC as we know it.

    • cultofmetatron 4 hours ago

      > but every TV today is based on his technology.

      Philo Farnsworth invented the cathode ray tube. unless you're writing this from the year 2009 or before, I'm going to have to push back on the idea that tv's TODAY are based on his technology. They most certainly are not.

      • jedberg 3 hours ago

        He invented electronic rasterization, a form of which is still in use today.

      • _nub3 4 hours ago

        1897 Ferdinand Braun invents the Cathode Ray Tube dubbed "Braunsche Röhre"

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenjiro_Takayanagi

        'Although he failed to gain much recognition in the West, he built the world's first all-electronic television receiver, and is referred to as "the father of Japanese television"'

        He presented it in 1926 (Farnsworth in 1927)

        However father of television was this dude:

        https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Manfred_von_Ardenne

        Better resolution, wireless transmission and Olympics 1936

      • shellac 4 hours ago

        No, Braun invented the cathode ray tube.

  • shevy-java 3 hours ago

    In a way television was kind of cool. I loved it as a child, give or take.

    Nowadays ..... hmmm. I no longer own a TV since many years. Sadly youtube kind of replaced television. It is not the same, quality-wise I think youtube is actually worse than e. g. the 1980s era. But I also don't really want to go back to television, as it also had low quality - and it simply took longer, too. On youtube I was recently watching old "Aktenzeichen XY ungelöst", in german. The old videos are kind of cool and interesting from the 1980s. I watched the new ones - it no longer made ANY sense to watch it ... the quality is much worse, and it is also much more boring. It's strange.

    • tadfisher 3 hours ago

      I remember when we organized our lives around television. On Saturday mornings it would be cartoons (including the first full-CGI television shows, Reboot and Transformers: Beast Wars), Wednesday evenings would be Star Trek: TNG, Fridays would be the TGIF block of family shows (from early-to-mid-90s USA perspective here). It felt like everyone watched the same thing, everyone had something to talk about from last night's episode, and there was a common connection over what we watched as entertainment.

      We saw a resurgence of this connection with big-budget serials like Game of Thrones, but now every streaming service has their own must-watch thing and it's basically as if everyone had their own personal broadcast station showing something different. I don't know if old-school television was healthy for society or not, but I do have a feeling of missing out on that shared connection lately.

      • elevation an hour ago

        > but I do have a feeling of missing out on that shared connection lately

        Mass media isolates individuals who don't have access to it. I grew up without a TV, and when TV was all my neighbors could talk about, I was left out, and everyone knew it.

        While other children were in front of the television gaining "shared experience", I built forts in the woods with my siblings, explored the creek in home made boats, learned to solder, read old books, wrote basic computer programs, launched model rockets, made up magic tricks. I had a great childhood, but I had a difficult time connecting with children whose only experiences were these shallow, shared experiences.

        Now that media is no longer "shared", the fragmented content that people still consume has diminishing social value -- which in many cases was the only value it had. Which means there are fewer social consequences for people like me who choose not to partake.

        • parpfish an hour ago

          it feels like you're advocating that "unless everybody can form a shared connection through common culture, nobody should for a shared connection through common culture".

      • jedberg 2 hours ago

        This is something I've been lamenting for a long time. The lack of shared culture. Sometimes a mega-hit briefly coalesces us, but for the most part everyone has their own thing.

        I miss the days when everyone had seen the same thing I had.

        • Diederich an hour ago

          I found this the other day: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ksFhXFuRblg "NBC Nightly News, June 24, 1975" I strongly urge people to watch this, it's 30 minutes but there are many very illuminating insights within. One word for you: Exxon.

          While I was young in 1975, I did watch ABC's version of the news with my grandparents, and continued up through high school. Then in the late 1980s I got on the Internet and well you know the rest.

          "Back Then", a high percentage of everybody I or my grandparents or my friends came into contact with watched one of ABC, NBC, or CBS news most nights. These three networks were a bit different, but they generally they all told the same basic stories as each other.

          This was effectively our shared reality. Later in high school as I became more politically focused, I could still talk to anybody, even people who had completely opposite political views as myself. That's because we had a shared view of reality.

          Today, tens of millions of people see the exact same footage of an officer involved shooting...many angles, and draw entirely different 'factual' conclusions.

          So yes, 50 years ago, we in the United States generally had a share view of reality. That was good in a lot of ways, but it did essentially allow a small set of people in power to decide that convincing a non-trivial percentage of the US population that Exxon was a friendly, family oriented company that was really on your side.

          Worth the trade off? Hard to say, but at least 'back then' it was possible, and even common, to have ground political discussions with people 'on the other side', and that's pretty valuable.

        • ghaff 2 hours ago

          I don't know if it's good or bad but, outside of some megahit films, people mostly don't regularly watch the same TV series. I don't even have live TV myself.

      • victorperalta 2 hours ago

        Planet Money recently released an episode that mentions some of these points around drop vs drip programming

        https://www.npr.org/2025/12/24/nx-s1-5646673/stranger-things...

      • eloisant 2 hours ago

        This is why I like it when streaming services release one episode every week instead of dropping the whole season in one shot.

        • parpfish 42 minutes ago

          i hate the single season dumping at once for a big binge. it always feel like i'm plugging into the content trough and gorging myself to pass the hours.

          you can't talk about a show with somebody until they're also done binging, so there's no fun discussion/speculation (the conversation is either "did you watch that? yeah. <conversation over>" or "you should watch this. <conversation over>".

    • procflora 7 minutes ago

      The broadcast nature of it is something that I missed just last night. I was walking past several bars as the Seahawks won a big football game, but of course each spot was on a different stream delay so instead of one full-throated simultaneous cheer echoing across the neighborhood it was three or four quieter, distinct cheers spread over 20-30 seconds. Not really a big deal but still, it felt like a lesser experience to this aging millennial.

    • the_af 3 hours ago

      > It is not the same, quality-wise I think youtube is actually worse than e. g. the 1980s era

      Is it though? I of course watched TV as a kid through the 80s and have some feelings of nostalgia about it, but is it true that YouTube today is worse?

      I mean, YouTube is nothing in particular. There's all sorts of crap, but Sturgeon's Law [1] applies here. There is also good stuff, even gems, if you curate your content carefully. YouTube can be delightful if you know what to look for. If you don't filter, yeah... it's garbage.

      ----

      [1] https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturgeon%27s_law

      • b00ty4breakfast 2 hours ago

        There is many times more things on youtube than were ever on TV over it's entire lifetime up to the YT era, even discounting old TV show content on Youtube. But it also feels like the ratio of of good-to-shit has not remained constant between the two.

      • sodapopcan 3 hours ago

        Definitely good stuff on YouTube, but I do miss the curation and, as was talked about here recently I believe, shared experiences that brought. I'm also crazy addicted to YouTube in a way that I wasn't to TV, but that's another issue.

  • ofrzeta 4 hours ago

    Neil Postman's theory still holds up and is extended to the Internet

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amusing_Ourselves_to_Death

    • willturman 4 hours ago

      > In the introduction to Amusing Ourselves to Death, Postman said that the contemporary world was better reflected by Aldous Huxley's Brave New World, whose public was oppressed by their addiction to amusement, rather than by Orwell's work, where they were oppressed by state violence.

      And modern America asked itself, why can't it be both?

  • JoeDaDude 2 hours ago

    I don't care to start a debate about who first invented television when, but I remember hearing (conformed by wikipedia [1]) that Leon Theremin, inventor of the musical instrument named after him, demonstrated mechanical television at roughly the same time.

    [1]. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Leon_Theremin

  • bilsbie 5 hours ago

    Odd we never adapted to it.

    Video has a strange hypnotic power over most people and messages seem to bypass normal mental defenses.

    • Geste 4 hours ago

      I'd say we did, you need more and more for the same effect.

      Here is the first ad ever, for a watch : https://youtu.be/ho2OJfXkvpI

      For comparison, here is the latest ad for the best selling watch as of today : https://youtu.be/kdMTc5WfnkM

      • derektank 3 hours ago

        In case anyone accuses you of not comparing like to like, even a contemporary Bulova commercial is much more similar to the latter than the former: https://youtu.be/trp7p634qAU?si=fGvyxHp_cayuw5xa

      • andai 4 hours ago

        Everyone's trying too hard to stand out, but honestly the first one would stand out more today, despite being a still image!

        • chwtutha 5 minutes ago

          My thoughts exactly. Apple could probably go viral with the original style of ad today.

      • wat10000 3 hours ago

        Wow, I haven't watched any ads for a while and that was pretty jarring.

  • augusteo 4 hours ago

    The Baird vs Farnsworth debate reminds me of similar discussions in tech. The first demo rarely becomes the dominant standard.

    What strikes me is how fast the iteration was. Baird went from hatboxes and bicycle lenses to color TV prototypes in just two years. That's the kind of rapid experimentation we're seeing with AI right now, though compressed even further.

  • Deanallen 4 hours ago

    > Television, he notes, has introduced the phrase "now this", which implies a complete absence of connection between the separate topics the phrase ostensibly connects.

    This idea is why I always take media with a grain of salt. The decontexualization makes it easy for people to be reactive towards something, that isn’t logical

    Eg “now this is why <insert person or group> is good/evil”

    People call me the devils advocate when I point out these nuances but I just think we need to be much more critical when forming and holding opinions.

    • hnlmorg 3 hours ago

      Your example isn’t what your quote is referring to.

      “Now this” is just a segue between unrelated topics.

      Eg “and now a word from our sponsors”.

    • burkaman 2 hours ago

      Isn't "now this" just a synonym for "moving on" or "next order of business" or "apropos of nothing"? I don't think the concept of jumping to a completely new topic is something TV introduced.

    • masfuerte 4 hours ago

      What are you quoting?

      • criddell 4 hours ago

        Sounds like something from Neil Postman’s excellent book Amusing Ourselves to Death.

  • mrbluecoat an hour ago
    • gcanyon an hour ago

      The interesting question (to me) is how directly a line can be drawn from the original invention to what we in modern times think of as “the thing”?

      As an example, the Wright brothers built a biplane that had wing warping instead of ailerons and a canard design. That bears little resemblance to most modern airplanes, but people have little trouble crediting it as “the invention of the airplane” —- questions of whether the Wrights were first or not notwithstanding.

      Can ”TV” be thus simplified so that an electromechanical device with spinning discs qualifies?

  • marcd35 2 hours ago

    funny story - I had a job recently that installed DirecTV setups for mostly retirement communities. On almost every service call, I'd show up and 95% of the time, without fail, they'd either be watching Fox News, CNN, or CNBC. It was quite depressing to see 24/7 news stations had completely consumed their lives and became the majority of topics of conversation while I was there.

    I eventually quit the job. I decided I didn't want to be a part of making our society worse by installing these devices that were causing manufactured outrage, hate, and selective truth telling.

    Soon after I left, I found a book while thrifting that came out in 1978 called "Four Arguments for the Elimination of Television" by Jerry Mander. I laughed at the title and couldn't believe someone was already arguing for the detriments of TV before I was born. It's very well written and the points he makes are still relevant today.

    From the wikipedia - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Four_Arguments_for_the_Elimina...

    Mander believes that "television and democratic society are incompatible" due to television removing all of society's senses except for seeing and hearing. The author states that television makes it so that people have no common sense which leads to...being "powerless to reject the camera's line of sight, reset the stage, or call on our own sensory apparatus to correct the doctored sights and sounds the machine delivers".

    Mander's four arguments in the book to eliminate television are:

    1. that telecommunication removes the sense of reality from people,

    2. television promotes capitalism,

    3. television can be used as a scapegoat, and

    4. that all three of these issues negatively work together.

    • 0PingWithJesus an hour ago

      Reminds me of Neil Postman's "Amusing Ourselves to Death" (1985), in which he argues that TV as a medium is fundamentally incapable of producing anything other than entertainment. So things like news, political discussion, or any other type of educational programming can only exist on TV as a nutrition-less pantomime of the real thing.

  • banku_brougham an hour ago

    for every episode of the A-Team, for Saturday morning cartoons, for I Love Lucy, and for Miami Vice, I give thanks.

    Edit: And Star Trek, and Cosmos

    • nephihaha 26 minutes ago

      Diamonds on a dung heap. For every good series which we love there are dozens of terrible/forgettable ones.

      A shame since TV has so much potential as a medium.

  • ChrisMarshallNY 2 hours ago

    Love the name of the blog!

    I think that LCD screens, huge digital bandwidth, and CCD sensors, have turned video ("television"), into a vast new landscape.

    I'm old enough to remember putting foil on the rabbit-ears...

  • josalhor 3 hours ago

    On the one hand I look at some tech lifecycles and feel everything moves so slow (cars, energy and train infrastructure etc..). And then I look at other stuff and I cannot phantom that someone who was born 100 years ago saw a TV (or media electronic screen) from conception to modern miracle. As someone in his 20s I can't imagine what I'll see in the next 80 years!

    • jibolash 3 hours ago

      Unfortunately technological progress is not always exponential. An human landed on the moon 56 years ago and people back then thought space travel would be a routine thing today so it'll be interesting to see how things go

      • sodafountan 2 hours ago

        It's certainly not routine, but I'd say the privatization of the space industry that's unfolded over the last few decades is significant progress.

        When I get depressed and look out at the world, I'm actually amazed at what I'm living through—the internet, space travel, electric and autonomous cars, smartphones. It's really amazing.

  • wglass 4 hours ago

    Related to discussion on Baird vs. Farnsworth, there's a plaque honoring Farnsworth on Green Street in San Francisco. https://noehill.com/sf/landmarks/cal0941.asp

  • tosti 5 hours ago

    High definition is nearly 90 years old? I guess their definition of high is quite low by more modern standards.

    • cf100clunk 30 minutes ago

      Analogue interlaced-scan TV systems like PAL and SECAM were actually ''higher'' definition in relation to NTSC by visual line count, although the former's 25Hz refresh rate was noticeable for flickering compared to NTSC's ~30Hz, which was much closer to the human eye's comfort level.

      There was a prototype 819-line analogue ''high definition'' system used to record The T.A.M.I. Show in 1964, with excellent results, but the recordings were committed to film for distribution since there was no apparatus for broadcasting it:

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/T.A.M.I._Show

      There were also experiments by NHK of Japan with analogue HD broadcasting, but digital TV was so close on the horizon that it was mooted.

      ''High definition'' has been a relative term in the professional TV world all along, but became consumer buzzwords with the advent of digital TV in the early 2000's. Nowadays we know it to mean 720, 1080, or higher lines, usually in progressive scan.

    • ronsor 5 hours ago

      Going from 30 lines to 300 lines is a big leap!

    • anthk 5 hours ago

      Cinema was "HD" by design. So, in some way, 35mm movies are HD quality and predate PAL and NTSC standards.

      • tosti 4 hours ago

        Sure, but that's not TV.

  • nephihaha 29 minutes ago

    I have mixed feelings about television and no longer have one. Some great series but also tonnes and tonnes of forgettable and insulting trash.

    I think television has had a negative effect on community and social interaction.

  • tibbydudeza an hour ago

    Watching Dallas on a Tuesday evening with the entire family gathered in our parents' bedroom with me and brother and sister at the end of the bed on the floor watching the latest schemes of JR Ewing and poor hapless brother Bobby.

    We never had the TV set in the lounge - it was meant for special occasions like tea and cake for family gatherings.

    We still have a TV but it hardly used - everybody has iPads in the house.

  • TacticalCoder 5 hours ago

    And 100 years ago my great-aunt and grandmother (both RIP) were little kids and my great-grandmother, born in the 19th century and which I knew very well for she lived until 99 years old, was filming them playing on the beach using a "Pathe Baby" hand camera.

    I still have the reels, they look like this:

    https://commons.wikimedia.org/wiki/File:Films_Path%C3%A9-Bab...

    https://fr.wikipedia.org/wiki/Path%C3%A9-Baby

    And we converted some of these reels to digital files (well brothers and I asked a specialized company to "digitalize" them).

    100 years ago people already had cars, tramways (as a kid my great-grandmother tried to look under the first tramway she saw to see "where the horses were hiding"), cameras to film movies, telephones, the telegraph existed, you could trade the stock market and, well, it's knew to me but TV was just invented too.

    • TeMPOraL 4 hours ago

      On the one hand, it's fascinating to know just how much of what shapes our lives was already there a hundred years ago in some form.

      On the other hand, it's just as fascinating to realize that all that, and ~everything that shapes modern life, did not exist until ~200 years ago. Not just appliances, but medicines and medicine, plastics and greases and other products of petrochemical industry and everything built on top of it, paints and cleaners and materials and so on...

  • throw0101a 3 hours ago

    In interesting plot point in the novel/movie Contact (early, so not much of a spoiler):

    > […] This puts her at odds with much of the scientific community, including Drumlin, who pushes to defund SETI. Eventually, the project detects a signal from Vega, 26 light-years away, transmitting prime numbers.[a][b] Further analysis reveals a retransmission of Adolf Hitler's 1936 Olympic speech, the first TV signal to escape Earth's ionosphere.[1]

    * https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Contact_(novel)

  • Kye an hour ago

    Blogger was new when TV was 75 years old. Glad to see it's still around.

  • jakedata 4 hours ago

    Inspired one of my absolute favorite Zappa grooves.

    I am the Slime

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iiCQcEW98OY

    I am gross and perverted

    I'm obsessed and deranged

    I have existed for years

    But very little has changed

    I'm the tool of the Government

    And industry too

    For I am destined to rule

    And regulate you

    I may be vile and pernicious

    But you can't look away

    I make you think I'm delicious

    With the stuff that I say

    I'm the best you can get

    Have you guessed me yet?

    I'm the slime oozin' out

    From your TV set

    You will obey me while I lead you

    And eat the garbage that I feed you

    Until the day that we don't need you

    Don't go for help, no one will heed you

    Your mind is totally controlled

    It has been stuffed into my mold

    And you will do as you are told

    Until the rights to you are sold

    That's right, folks

    Don't touch that dial

    Well, I am the slime from your video

    Oozin' along on your livin' room floor

    I am the slime from your video

    Can't stop the slime, people, look at me go

    I am the slime from your video

    Oozin' along on your livin' room floor

    I am the slime from your video

    Can't stop the slime, people, look at me go

    Source: Musixmatch

    Songwriters: Frank Zappa

    I'm The Slime lyrics © Munchkin Music Co

  • empressplay 4 hours ago
  • fuzzfactor 4 hours ago

    My buddy has an old Portacolor, but it's only 60.

  • morkalork 4 hours ago

    Long live the new flesh

    • Edman274 2 hours ago

      It did always strike me as funny that Cronenberg had a movie about "what if TV was evil and made people murderous and the studio execs had to pay", and a movie about "what if video games were evil and made people murderous and their creators had to pay", but never a movie about "what if movies were evil and made people murderous and film directors had to pay". Obvious bias aside I wonder if it would work as a story - movies don't seem as hypnotic in the public consciousness, I believe.

  • willturman 3 hours ago

    > It’s entirely possible that my plangent noises about the impossibility of rebelling against an aura that promotes and vitiates all rebellion say more about my residency inside that aura, my own lack of vision, than they do about any exhaustion of U.S. fiction’s possibilities. The next real literary “rebels” in this country might well emerge as some weird bunch of anti-rebels, born oglers who dare somehow to back away from ironic watching, who have the childish gall actually to endorse and instantiate single-entendre principles. Who treat of plain old untrendy human troubles and emotions in U.S. life with reverence and conviction. Who eschew self-consciousness and hip fatigue. These anti-rebels would be outdated, of course, before they even started. Dead on the page. Too sincere. Clearly repressed. Backward, quaint, naïve, anachronistic. Maybe that’ll be the point. Maybe that’s why they’ll be the next real rebels. Real rebels, as far as I can see, risk disapproval. The old postmodern insurgents risked the gasp and squeal: shock, disgust, outrage, censorship, accusations of socialism, anarchism, nihilism. Today’s risks are different. The new rebels might be artists willing to risk the yawn, the rolled eyes, the cool smile, the nudged ribs, the parody of gifted ironists, the “Oh how banal.” To risk accusations of sentimentality, melodrama. Of overcredulity. Of softness. Of willingness to be suckered by a world of lurkers and starers who fear gaze and ridicule above imprisonment without law. Who knows. Today’s most engaged young fiction does seem like some kind of line’s end’s end. I guess that means we all get to draw our own conclusions. Have to. Are you immensely pleased.

    - David Foster Wallace, E Unibus Pluram: Television and US Fiction

  • throw4847285 4 hours ago

    Really? But Marquee Moon isn't even 50 years old yet. What were they doing for the first 50?

  • racl101 5 hours ago

    Thank you Mr. Farnsworth.

    • goda90 4 hours ago

      Philo Farnsworth did make considerable contribution to television with his image dissector, but he didn't make the first TV. He was the first TV patent holder in the US though.

      https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Television#History

    • a3w 5 hours ago

      And in Futurama, a man with the same family name invents a universal remote. The [drumroll] longer finger!