> I can’t afford healthcare or electricity, and ICE just abducted my neighbor. But at least I no longer have to see plaques that mention slavery when I visit national landmarks.
As a child, evil was giant walking nuclear robots and monologuing villains and the temptation of otherworldly power, but as an adult, this is evil’s most common form. Come sell out democracy and humanity for a few bucks.
Turns out evil is childhood neglect on a below average person with enormous unearned resources. An ego easy to mold unleashed on us by people who wanted to push him to ruin us.
And his followers near and far egging him on. A lightning rod for fear, stupidity, and a urge to fix a sense of inadequacy.
I would encourage anyone working for companies that aid ICE to stop work and do everything you can as an employee. There is a real opportunity to do something. “I only worked for the company that provided cloud services” will be the new “I was just following orders.”
Is there a complete list? Palantir, Amazon, Salesforce, Microsoft.
Second day in a row seeing a post like, it will be censored in 3 2 1 ...
Can’t allow anything to get in the way of those yc startups seeking ICE contracts. The tech-bro elite need to make their $$$ assisting in hunting down modern day Anne Franks.
It's fascinating to learn how IBM, Hugo Boss, or BMW could've been involved with the Nazis, by watching the present day: Just look at how Zuck, Bezos, Google's CEO were at the front row of the Trump inauguration and surrendered before even a fight, because hey, "I need to deliver value to my stockholders!", or in the case of Zuck I think it's more "Gotta make sure I stay in the 3-commas-club!".
Meanwhile there's a flagged to death comment about policing the border and illegal immigrants. Oh yeah, the 2 year old "illegal immigrant", he's out to take your job!
Well it’s weird because there are a 195 counties on the planet and they’re all, to one degree or another, negatively effected by illegal immigration because all countries require legal citizenship.
I don’t think so. I think the administration will just keep declaring that X is a terrorist that obviously brandished weapons/threated ICE and it will be parroted by Fox News. Done. And who will stop them? No one. Republican office holders’ reelection is more important.
Yes, and: the propaganda machine will benefit from being able to automatically dig up the most "lib"-coded posts to use in their assertions that they were right to kill that person.
I wonder if this will stay up on hn; the site is very against mass surveillance but anything involving ICE gets flag killed.
People want to know the identity of law enforcement to dox them. Police, federal agents, lawyers, and judges can be pressured by criminals and organized crime. That’s a thing, you know that right?
That is far down the list of reasons someone might want to know who is performing actions against them with the backing of the federal government. Much higher on the list would be accountability if they do something wrong or to reference them in any follow up legal or administrative interactions they might have in the giant immigration system.
So just curious when all your tech people are going to stage a worker strike against this fascist bullshit? What do you just wanna get a gold bar like Tim Cook did?
Maybe this will finally wake up all the people working for, building, and and enabling ad-tech and surveillance capitalism. Probably not, but we can hope. You're not just an "engineer" for Facebook or Google at this point. You are enabling fascism.
Fascism is a slippery slope, maybe a political maelstorm everyone can be made to love it. The "first they came" poem is also a reminder that this are easier to see in hindsight. I think the strange turn the US took on human rights after 9/11, the media started to not only paint other groups as bad guys that you should overcome with force. The idea that any means necessary was allowed for a small win by torture, hacking or control. This idea that your power can be used against anyone just with a small connection to one bad person
No it didn't. You have the option of not interfering with law enforcement trying to rid the country of the tens of millions of foreigners here illegally. You have the option of not pulling a gun on six armed guys trying to justifiably subdue you.
Why do you empathise with these people? It's sick.
> I can’t afford healthcare or electricity, and ICE just abducted my neighbor. But at least I no longer have to see plaques that mention slavery when I visit national landmarks.
As a child, evil was giant walking nuclear robots and monologuing villains and the temptation of otherworldly power, but as an adult, this is evil’s most common form. Come sell out democracy and humanity for a few bucks.
Turns out evil is childhood neglect on a below average person with enormous unearned resources. An ego easy to mold unleashed on us by people who wanted to push him to ruin us.
And his followers near and far egging him on. A lightning rod for fear, stupidity, and a urge to fix a sense of inadequacy.
I would encourage anyone working for companies that aid ICE to stop work and do everything you can as an employee. There is a real opportunity to do something. “I only worked for the company that provided cloud services” will be the new “I was just following orders.”
Is there a complete list? Palantir, Amazon, Salesforce, Microsoft.
This has now been flagged twice today when it has a legitimate tech/privacy angle. Unbelievable.
Second day in a row seeing a post like, it will be censored in 3 2 1 ...
Can’t allow anything to get in the way of those yc startups seeking ICE contracts. The tech-bro elite need to make their $$$ assisting in hunting down modern day Anne Franks.
It's fascinating to learn how IBM, Hugo Boss, or BMW could've been involved with the Nazis, by watching the present day: Just look at how Zuck, Bezos, Google's CEO were at the front row of the Trump inauguration and surrendered before even a fight, because hey, "I need to deliver value to my stockholders!", or in the case of Zuck I think it's more "Gotta make sure I stay in the 3-commas-club!".
Meanwhile there's a flagged to death comment about policing the border and illegal immigrants. Oh yeah, the 2 year old "illegal immigrant", he's out to take your job!
Well it’s weird because there are a 195 counties on the planet and they’re all, to one degree or another, negatively effected by illegal immigration because all countries require legal citizenship.
Okay? What point are you trying to make?
I’m not making a point, a made an observation.
resist this.
These tools will just be used to gather evidence for character assasination to justify future killings.
I don’t think so. I think the administration will just keep declaring that X is a terrorist that obviously brandished weapons/threated ICE and it will be parroted by Fox News. Done. And who will stop them? No one. Republican office holders’ reelection is more important.
Yes, and: the propaganda machine will benefit from being able to automatically dig up the most "lib"-coded posts to use in their assertions that they were right to kill that person.
I wonder if this will stay up on hn; the site is very against mass surveillance but anything involving ICE gets flag killed.
Yep, I could totally see that at this point.
Justice for Alex Pretti.
Wake the fuck up America.
Correct me if I’m wrong but aren’t there 195 countries on the planet that all have legal and illegal immigrants?
Also please keep in mind I’m a life long liberal that voted for Ralph Nader and Bernie Sanders.
Not so many with the masked unidentified death squads though, at least not in the G20.
People want to know the identity of law enforcement to dox them. Police, federal agents, lawyers, and judges can be pressured by criminals and organized crime. That’s a thing, you know that right?
That is far down the list of reasons someone might want to know who is performing actions against them with the backing of the federal government. Much higher on the list would be accountability if they do something wrong or to reference them in any follow up legal or administrative interactions they might have in the giant immigration system.
How many judges hide their identity?
So just curious when all your tech people are going to stage a worker strike against this fascist bullshit? What do you just wanna get a gold bar like Tim Cook did?
Maybe this will finally wake up all the people working for, building, and and enabling ad-tech and surveillance capitalism. Probably not, but we can hope. You're not just an "engineer" for Facebook or Google at this point. You are enabling fascism.
Fascism is a slippery slope, maybe a political maelstorm everyone can be made to love it. The "first they came" poem is also a reminder that this are easier to see in hindsight. I think the strange turn the US took on human rights after 9/11, the media started to not only paint other groups as bad guys that you should overcome with force. The idea that any means necessary was allowed for a small win by torture, hacking or control. This idea that your power can be used against anyone just with a small connection to one bad person
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_They_Came
Arresting and deporting people who have entered your country illegally is not fascism. Do people not want laws enforced? Do you not want borders?
It must be nice to live in such a delusional bubble that you’re so clueless to what’s going on.
What about 6 federal “agents” beating up and summarily executing someone who is just protesting them on a public street? Is that fascism?
Without even knowing what incident you're trying to sensationalise, I know that hasn't happened.
It happened today. Literally go to ANY news site.
No it didn't. You have the option of not interfering with law enforcement trying to rid the country of the tens of millions of foreigners here illegally. You have the option of not pulling a gun on six armed guys trying to justifiably subdue you.
Why do you empathise with these people? It's sick.