ATproto might not be a platform exactly, but it is an ecosystem. Programming language ecosystems don't really die but they do fade sometimes.
I think the issue with publishing via a PDS is that you're basically letting anyone republish on their own website. For comments that makes a lot of sense since they can show up under articles. But for a blog? Maybe it would be better to keep your database of articles offline, publish it to your own website, and not replicate it to the world? Instead, send a ATproto post for each article with a link to your website.
I understand I’m behind in terminology in this space and figured that there at least would’ve been a post to make its way through HN that would explain what the “Atmosphere” is. Apparently this submission was supposed to be that (5 days ago) but it doesn’t define the concept.
> The "Atmosphere" is the term we use to describe the ecosystem around the AT Protocol.
I think that ATProto is going to win against other decentralized/‘fediverse' protocols in the long run. Bluesky? Maybe not. But I am impressed by the look of other platforms like Leaflet and that one that’s supposed to be an alternative to GitHub or something like that. [1]
I can’t speak on the tech behind the protocol itself but as far as marketing is considered it’s in the lead in my opinion. ActivityPub seems too gangly and Nostr is the worst—as in 'worse is better’—and in a way I’m fond of it because of that.
The planning behind ATProto appears to be far more coordinated than the other two. Despite being the senior of the three, ActivityPub is still going through inter-platform drama (e.g., the Instagram clone that was recently condemned for not handling text-only posts...like an Instagram clone should) and I get the feeling that the mind behind Nostr can care less about coordinating. I look at it more like a toolkit to build a protocol out of than a single one akin to the other two. [2]
[1]: This is my first look at OffPrint. It looks too much like Substack. I hate it. But I figure that the beautiful thing is that in theory I can use Leaflet and you can use OffPrint and I guess our writing is all in the same...atmosphere. Hah.
[2]: Similar to another web project that I’m fond of, Datastar.
I submitted my explainer (hosted on my Bluesky PDS and published on Leaflet pointed at my domain) 5 months ago, but it didn't get enough velocity to hit the front page.
The article isn't resolving, so I can't speak to what it exactly says.
However, the question isn't "on your own domain vs not," it's "how you publish." Blog networks are popular because most people do not have the technical ability to spin up a server, buy a domain, and point it at it.
Why an atproto based solution instead of Medium or whatever? Because then you actually own your own data. And that also doesn't preclude it ending up on your own domain in the end anyway, because it's your data.
ATproto might not be a platform exactly, but it is an ecosystem. Programming language ecosystems don't really die but they do fade sometimes.
I think the issue with publishing via a PDS is that you're basically letting anyone republish on their own website. For comments that makes a lot of sense since they can show up under articles. But for a blog? Maybe it would be better to keep your database of articles offline, publish it to your own website, and not replicate it to the world? Instead, send a ATproto post for each article with a link to your website.
I understand I’m behind in terminology in this space and figured that there at least would’ve been a post to make its way through HN that would explain what the “Atmosphere” is. Apparently this submission was supposed to be that (5 days ago) but it doesn’t define the concept.
> The "Atmosphere" is the term we use to describe the ecosystem around the AT Protocol.
— <https://atproto.com/guides/glossary#atmosphere> (Why on earth is the glossary not alphabetized by the way?)
I think that ATProto is going to win against other decentralized/‘fediverse' protocols in the long run. Bluesky? Maybe not. But I am impressed by the look of other platforms like Leaflet and that one that’s supposed to be an alternative to GitHub or something like that. [1]
I can’t speak on the tech behind the protocol itself but as far as marketing is considered it’s in the lead in my opinion. ActivityPub seems too gangly and Nostr is the worst—as in 'worse is better’—and in a way I’m fond of it because of that.
The planning behind ATProto appears to be far more coordinated than the other two. Despite being the senior of the three, ActivityPub is still going through inter-platform drama (e.g., the Instagram clone that was recently condemned for not handling text-only posts...like an Instagram clone should) and I get the feeling that the mind behind Nostr can care less about coordinating. I look at it more like a toolkit to build a protocol out of than a single one akin to the other two. [2]
[1]: This is my first look at OffPrint. It looks too much like Substack. I hate it. But I figure that the beautiful thing is that in theory I can use Leaflet and you can use OffPrint and I guess our writing is all in the same...atmosphere. Hah.
[2]: Similar to another web project that I’m fond of, Datastar.
I submitted my explainer (hosted on my Bluesky PDS and published on Leaflet pointed at my domain) 5 months ago, but it didn't get enough velocity to hit the front page.
https://foxes.kyefox.com/3ly4qwtlagc2w
Herman characterises this as the third distillation: sourcing mass-media news.
Why would you do that vs just publishing on your own domain?
The article isn't resolving, so I can't speak to what it exactly says.
However, the question isn't "on your own domain vs not," it's "how you publish." Blog networks are popular because most people do not have the technical ability to spin up a server, buy a domain, and point it at it.
Why an atproto based solution instead of Medium or whatever? Because then you actually own your own data. And that also doesn't preclude it ending up on your own domain in the end anyway, because it's your data.
This ATproto astroturfing is becoming a bit ridiculous.
The three main publishing platforms are working together
https://standard.site/
ATProto and the ATmosphere are different
ATproturfing is that correct term for it.
(yes very proud of myself for this )