They probably do that in parallel, the point of the visitor disclosure isn't to reveal the social media history, it is so even if the social media history itself, which they have through technical means, doesn't reveal any basis for exclusion, the failure to disclose parts of it (which comparing the disclosure to the records they already have identifies) can do so, as well as pointing authorities to what the visitor thinks needs hidden and should be investigated further.
The problem with secret surveillance programs is you have to be “read in” to have access. No way they’re making that available to every border control agent. That’s why the interdiction programs at the southern border are handled via anonymous WhatsApp groups.
It’s way easier to just do the illegal and unconstitutional search at the border.
Well, I've called Trump a crook plenty enough times, including here, to qualify as having "Un-American thoughts", that I've excluded myself from being allowed to enter his fascist state.
I'm reminded of thumbing through a friend's copy of Lonely Planet Guide to USSR, and reading about needing to be careful when being questioned by the border guards...
I'm looking forward to seeing some comedy skits about border crossings.
Visitor interrogation room, locked steel door with wire mesh safety glass, multiple large-format pictures of Dear Leader hung up around the room and sitting on desk. Agent inquisitor, grumpy stern face, all decked out in a serious business uniform covered in Partisan trinkets. Candidate tourists, vanilla family with two young boys, still thinking of the border crossing as a quick formality, tired and just looking to get to their hotel at Disneyworld. The kids are already wearing mouse ears.
The inquisitor demands to know if the family has in any anti-American speech or activities. The family goes into detail about their enthusiasm for natural rights and individual liberty as described by the US Constitution and Bill of Rights. As the "woke" foreigners effectively insult Dear Leader's totalitarian regime, the inquisitor gets increasingly angry. But the inquisitor keeps doubling down on the questions trying to find a justification to let the family in in since he and his bosses get large bonuses from Disney for every customer they approve. The clueless family keeps right on describing their love for American Liberty and generally condemning oppressive countries with low freedom, widespread corruption and bribery, corrupt courts that destroy the rule of law, high import taxes that kill industry, strong fickle control over businesses, high import taxes that kill industry, high monetary inflation guts the economy, backwards-thinking educational institutions, etc. The inquisitor continues to get angrier and angrier.
Eventually the inquisitor gets so upset that he breaks down sobbing, explaining that he only joined the Party because his parents kept picking on him for being gay and he had hoped the Party could fix him. He laments that his parents are now in the concentration camp, as he himself turned them in for spreading unrest by complaining about rising prices. The inquisitor asks the family to say hello to his parents passing through on their way to Disney World, as the camp now occupies the entire state of Florida apart from Disney and the occasional retirement resort for Party members. The inquisitor then asks if he can please have a pair of mouse ears, so he can at least feel that innocent joy he used to know for the two minutes before he's dragged away. The father nods to the older boy. The inquisitor dons the mouse ears and a calm resigned expression on his face.
The door bursts open and the supervisor charges in followed by a black bag team. The supervisor hands the older boy a new pair of mouse ears, and exclaims "Enjoy your stay at Disneyworld!". The screen floods to black, starting from the top of the bag.
Have you seen anything that the current regime is doing? Making the country repulsive for longstanding allies and individual visitors, paramilitary gangs assaulting American cities rifling through homes, hefty import taxes to kill what's left of our distributed industry, demanding fealty from longstanding independent institutions. And the list goes on.
The left's criticism generally comes out of a place of wanting to improve our country, however misguided some of their ideas end up being. Meanwhile Trumpism is basically one never ending litany of grievances against the modern United States, in favor of some imagined rosy past based around religious fundamentalism and corporate authoritarianism.
Americans are overwhelmingly against illegal immigration, trans nonsense and coddling criminals. The left thinks everything needs to be destroyed to bring on their utopia. NYC should be interesting test case.
"FBI Making List of American “Extremists,” Leaked Memo Reveals": https://www.kenklippenstein.com/p/leak-fbi-list-of-extremist... (www.kenklippenstein.com/p/leak-fbi-list-of-extremists-is-coming), https://archive.ph/fnNGc
Mirror: https://archive.ph/ueP6u
We didn't need any more reasons to not visit the US, geez.
> U.S. plans to ask visitors to disclose 5 years of social media history
Can't they just ask the NSA, nicely ?
They probably do that in parallel, the point of the visitor disclosure isn't to reveal the social media history, it is so even if the social media history itself, which they have through technical means, doesn't reveal any basis for exclusion, the failure to disclose parts of it (which comparing the disclosure to the records they already have identifies) can do so, as well as pointing authorities to what the visitor thinks needs hidden and should be investigated further.
At least it's some evidence that the NSA, nor Zuck/Musk/whoever other fuckwit can provide the information...
Nope, only that it’s easier to perform a forced search than to us pre-existing secret search.
You think the NSA is competent enough to have that easily cataloged?
The problem with secret surveillance programs is you have to be “read in” to have access. No way they’re making that available to every border control agent. That’s why the interdiction programs at the southern border are handled via anonymous WhatsApp groups.
It’s way easier to just do the illegal and unconstitutional search at the border.
They ain’t askin.
More discussion: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=46217026
Well, I've called Trump a crook plenty enough times, including here, to qualify as having "Un-American thoughts", that I've excluded myself from being allowed to enter his fascist state.
I'm reminded of thumbing through a friend's copy of Lonely Planet Guide to USSR, and reading about needing to be careful when being questioned by the border guards...
I'm looking forward to seeing some comedy skits about border crossings.
Visitor interrogation room, locked steel door with wire mesh safety glass, multiple large-format pictures of Dear Leader hung up around the room and sitting on desk. Agent inquisitor, grumpy stern face, all decked out in a serious business uniform covered in Partisan trinkets. Candidate tourists, vanilla family with two young boys, still thinking of the border crossing as a quick formality, tired and just looking to get to their hotel at Disneyworld. The kids are already wearing mouse ears.
The inquisitor demands to know if the family has in any anti-American speech or activities. The family goes into detail about their enthusiasm for natural rights and individual liberty as described by the US Constitution and Bill of Rights. As the "woke" foreigners effectively insult Dear Leader's totalitarian regime, the inquisitor gets increasingly angry. But the inquisitor keeps doubling down on the questions trying to find a justification to let the family in in since he and his bosses get large bonuses from Disney for every customer they approve. The clueless family keeps right on describing their love for American Liberty and generally condemning oppressive countries with low freedom, widespread corruption and bribery, corrupt courts that destroy the rule of law, high import taxes that kill industry, strong fickle control over businesses, high import taxes that kill industry, high monetary inflation guts the economy, backwards-thinking educational institutions, etc. The inquisitor continues to get angrier and angrier.
Eventually the inquisitor gets so upset that he breaks down sobbing, explaining that he only joined the Party because his parents kept picking on him for being gay and he had hoped the Party could fix him. He laments that his parents are now in the concentration camp, as he himself turned them in for spreading unrest by complaining about rising prices. The inquisitor asks the family to say hello to his parents passing through on their way to Disney World, as the camp now occupies the entire state of Florida apart from Disney and the occasional retirement resort for Party members. The inquisitor then asks if he can please have a pair of mouse ears, so he can at least feel that innocent joy he used to know for the two minutes before he's dragged away. The father nods to the older boy. The inquisitor dons the mouse ears and a calm resigned expression on his face.
The door bursts open and the supervisor charges in followed by a black bag team. The supervisor hands the older boy a new pair of mouse ears, and exclaims "Enjoy your stay at Disneyworld!". The screen floods to black, starting from the top of the bag.
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Have you seen anything that the current regime is doing? Making the country repulsive for longstanding allies and individual visitors, paramilitary gangs assaulting American cities rifling through homes, hefty import taxes to kill what's left of our distributed industry, demanding fealty from longstanding independent institutions. And the list goes on.
The left's criticism generally comes out of a place of wanting to improve our country, however misguided some of their ideas end up being. Meanwhile Trumpism is basically one never ending litany of grievances against the modern United States, in favor of some imagined rosy past based around religious fundamentalism and corporate authoritarianism.
Americans are overwhelmingly against illegal immigration, trans nonsense and coddling criminals. The left thinks everything needs to be destroyed to bring on their utopia. NYC should be interesting test case.
Way to not read anything I said and just repeat mindless talking points. Not surprising, but still.