18 comments

  • treetalker 2 hours ago

    Butterick on TNR:

    (https://practicaltypography.com/times-new-roman-alternatives...)

    > When Times New Roman appears in a book, document, or advertisement, it connotes apathy. It says, “I submitted to the font of least resistance.” Times New Roman is not a font choice so much as the absence of a font choice, like the blackness of deep space is not a color. To look at Times New Roman is to gaze into the void.

    > If you have a choice about using Times New Roman, please stop. Use something else.

    And on Calibri:

    (https://practicaltypography.com/calibri-alternatives.html)

    > Like Cambria, Calibri works well on screen. But in print, its rounded corners make body text look soft. If you need a clean sans serif font, you have better options.

    - - -

    To telegraph an identity, TNR is a good choice for this administration; so, credit where due, well played. Still, I would have gone with Comic Sans.

    • nalnq 2 hours ago

      The Times New Roman commentary could have been true back when it was written, but now Calibri is the default for Microsoft Word, and has been for a long while (almost 20 years). So choosing Calibri is the path of least resistance.

      • Zafira an hour ago

        Aptos has been the default font for Microsoft Word since 2023.

        • pests 25 minutes ago

          With all the fanfare made over Calibri back when it was announced, TIL about Aptos

          • adzm 3 minutes ago

            Aptos is slightly wider and taller but looks very very similar to calibri, especially calibri a point larger.

    • Incipient an hour ago

      >Still, I would have gone with Comic Sans.

      I don't often genuinely laugh out loud at comments on HN, but that one was good! Subtle, classy, and a gentle yet effective dig.

  • loadingcmd 7 minutes ago

    As the administration steps back from global affairs, it seems the State Department is searching for direction. Rubio would go like - we’re done with managing world affairs via the NSS, what should we do next? Let’s change the font for a new perspective!

  • Hizonner 5 minutes ago

    I'm mostly surprised it wasn't Fraktur.

    How pitiful do you have to be as Secretary of State to get into minutiae about fonts, anyway?

  • anigbrowl 2 hours ago

    While mostly framed as a matter of clarity and formality in presentation, Mr. Rubio’s directive to all diplomatic posts around the world blamed “radical” diversity, equity, inclusion and accessibility programs for what he said was a misguided and ineffective switch from the serif typeface Times New Roman to sans serif Calibri in official department paperwork.

    In an “Action Request” memo obtained by The New York Times, Mr. Rubio said that switching back to the use of Times New Roman would “restore decorum and professionalism to the department’s written work.” Calibri is “informal” when compared to serif typefaces like Times New Roman, the order said, and “clashes” with the department’s official letterhead.

    As far back as I can recall, this is a politician who has railed against 'political correctness'.

  • softgrow an hour ago

    As documented at https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Google_Easter_eggs google search for "times new roman font" and the results are returned in that font. (https://www.google.com/search?q=Times+New+Roman+Font for the lazy). Looks terrible on my screen.

    • nine_k an hour ago

      Nice! Also works with Courier and Comic Sans, but, sadly, not with Helvetica.

      • cwnyth an hour ago

        And Arial, Calibri, Georgia, and Cambria. It's missing Linux Libertine fonts, though. So typical.

  • jgalt212 an hour ago

    > The department under Blinken in early January 2023 had switched to Calibri, a modern sans-serif font, saying this was a more accessible font for people with disabilities

    That's interesting because I've long been under the impression that serif fonts promoted easier reading. As such, serif fonts could / should be considered more accessible.

  • mitchbob 2 hours ago

    > Secretary of State Marco Rubio called the Biden-era move to the sans serif typeface “wasteful,” casting the return to Times New Roman as part of a push to stamp out diversity efforts.

    https://archive.ph/2025.12.10-001235/https://www.nytimes.com...

    • nine_k an hour ago

      To actually reduce waste, they could have switched to a narrower typeface, such as Roboto Condensed. At least it would save some paper occasionally.

  • ChrisArchitect an hour ago
  • techblueberry 2 hours ago

    What was wasted?

  • slater 3 hours ago

    Stopped clock, twice right?