I want to like Wayland, but they've really thrown the baby out with the bathwater. What matters to users is usability and, in this case, compatibility; not theoretical purity. The fact that I had to go seek out a way to run a headless Xwayland session to run Audacity without crashing means that Wayland is not ready for primetime (even if this should theoretically be fixed by Audacity).
Apparently X11 has a security extension [1]. There was a discussion some months ago [2].
Xenocara (X on OpenBSD) improves security by dropping privileges and using features like pledge [3], but I don't know how this affects the feasability of keyloggers.
At the cost of fragmenting the APIs to do any kind of related thing between all the different implementations (and making each one special-purpose as opposed to having a generalized mechanism to muck around with input and output).
I can't dynamically resize my desktop to any arbitrary resolution in Wayland, whereas under X11+Nvidia it's just "nvidia-settings --assign CurrentMetaMode=..."
This is mandatory for me as I'm constantly connecting into my workstation from other devices via Moonlight or Chrome Remote Desktop and I want the streaming resolution to match the resolution of my client.
I have a desktop and laptop with X11 and another laptop and phone with Wayland. It's not because I prefer one over another intrinsically, it's because I use XFCE on the laptop and desktop, GNOME on the other laptop, and Phosh on the phone.
That being said, they all run about the same to me? If XFCE swaps to Wayland, I probably will too. I have run XFCE for a long time, so I have been experimenting if I like GNOME or not and if to switch.
How is it having a Linux phone? Do you use it as your main Phone? I kinda want to try it on an old phone i have just to tinker around a bit but that will never be a good of a test as using it as your main device is.
How well do android apps work? what about banking apps? any issues that would make u NOT recommend it to other people? Are there many apps that are made for linux phones (or have a UI that works good with phones) so that you are not missing anything?
I want to like Wayland, but they've really thrown the baby out with the bathwater. What matters to users is usability and, in this case, compatibility; not theoretical purity. The fact that I had to go seek out a way to run a headless Xwayland session to run Audacity without crashing means that Wayland is not ready for primetime (even if this should theoretically be fixed by Audacity).
It's not just theoretical purity. Wayland also plugs pretty big security holes in X, like the ability to implement global keyloggers.
Apparently X11 has a security extension [1]. There was a discussion some months ago [2].
Xenocara (X on OpenBSD) improves security by dropping privileges and using features like pledge [3], but I don't know how this affects the feasability of keyloggers.
[1] https://www.x.org/releases/X11R7.6/doc/xextproto/security.ht...
[2] https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=44768745
[3] https://man.openbsd.org/pledge.2
At the cost of fragmenting the APIs to do any kind of related thing between all the different implementations (and making each one special-purpose as opposed to having a generalized mechanism to muck around with input and output).
I can't dynamically resize my desktop to any arbitrary resolution in Wayland, whereas under X11+Nvidia it's just "nvidia-settings --assign CurrentMetaMode=..."
This is mandatory for me as I'm constantly connecting into my workstation from other devices via Moonlight or Chrome Remote Desktop and I want the streaming resolution to match the resolution of my client.
surprisingly lacking in Gnome
I use "wlr-randr"
https://sr.ht/~emersion/wlr-randr/
I have a desktop and laptop with X11 and another laptop and phone with Wayland. It's not because I prefer one over another intrinsically, it's because I use XFCE on the laptop and desktop, GNOME on the other laptop, and Phosh on the phone.
That being said, they all run about the same to me? If XFCE swaps to Wayland, I probably will too. I have run XFCE for a long time, so I have been experimenting if I like GNOME or not and if to switch.
How is it having a Linux phone? Do you use it as your main Phone? I kinda want to try it on an old phone i have just to tinker around a bit but that will never be a good of a test as using it as your main device is.
How well do android apps work? what about banking apps? any issues that would make u NOT recommend it to other people? Are there many apps that are made for linux phones (or have a UI that works good with phones) so that you are not missing anything?
I'd happily jump, there's just no AwesomeWM successor, and I want to bring a decade's worth of custom bindings with me
Everything that I need works perfectly on X11.
Why would I move to Wayland where at least some things DO NOT WORK?
Not a Linux user but Wayland on FreeBSD is not production-ready. So I don't have a choice yet.
Of course. I run XFCE and don't give half a fck about what's underneath.
As long as XFCE runs on X11, I'll stick to X11.
Gnome is brain-damaged, I'd rather stick to an *allegedly* insecure X11 than switch to Gnome+Wayland.
Completely safe in situations like Qubes.