9 comments

  • jazzyjackson 5 hours ago

    never say anything to a cloud hosted chatbot you wouldn't want to see printed in the new york times

  • m463 7 hours ago

    anonymization wouldn't remove personally identifying data typed in. I can think of lots of examples.

  • burnt-resistor 5 hours ago

    If it ain't zero knowledge, it's a corporate surveillance state bonanza.

    If it's free or too cheap from a corporation, it's too expensive.

  • busymom0 7 hours ago

    Wouldn't every single American in that 20M people have standing (legal term) to prevent this?

  • ChrisArchitect 5 hours ago

    Related:

    Fighting the New York Times' invasion of user privacy

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45900370

    We analyzed 47,000 ChatGPT conversations. Here's what people use it for

    https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=45902767

  • 4ndrewl 6 hours ago

    In what way are these "private chats"?

    These are instructions to a computer-based service that you presumably signed your rights away to when you accepted the T&C's?

    • guiambros 2 hours ago

      Emails are also instructions to a computer-based service (SMTP) that you presumably signed your rights away to when you accepted the T&Cs.

      Yet no one would think it's acceptable for the NYT and a dozen other news organizations to request an "anonymized" archive of all your emails from provider X, just because said provider is in a lawsuit with them, and you have nothing to do with any of it.

      This is shameful, and would create a dangerous precedent. Really hope the order gets struck down.

    • rpdillon 5 hours ago

      The linked article is making the point that the judge is claiming that they are preserving privacy with this order because they believe in de-anonymization of the data set. The judge appears to have no understanding of how re-identification works and the history here.

      So while it's an interesting question about whether privacy exists, the point here is that it doesn't exist, but the judge is saying it does.

    • naIak 3 hours ago

      They were chats that were supposed to be private between you and OpenAI, concretely. Nobody, including OpenAI, expected them to ever become public.