6 comments

  • jerlam 3 hours ago

    There might be differences between the Shanghai and California factories that muddy the comparison:

    - California factory was made in previous Toyota/GM factory, not sure how much of it is completely optimized compared to Shanghai factory

    - Shanghai factory is built much more recently (2010 vs 2019)

    - California factory also makes low-volume S and X vehicles in addition to 3 and Y

    - California (especially the area around the Tesla factory) is not representative of most US auto manufacturing, most companies including Tesla have factories in other US states

    • fspeech 2 hours ago

      Whatever the reason California averages $4000 in labor cost per Tesla vs less than $300 in Shanghai. That's quite a difference.

  • etiennebausson 4 hours ago

    I suppose it would be way less if you only compared to U.S. prisons labor, but a race to the bottom is not to be admired.

    • ferguess_k 3 hours ago

      I think if the labor cost is a small part of total cost, it might be more valuable to investigate the roughly 1:2 output per worker. Some possibilities, none confirmed:

      - Chinese workers work 2 shifts instead of 3 shifts, so the factory simply hires less workers. This should also show a difference of total output of cars;

      - Chinese factory has better processes or/and automation, which is more interesting.

  • ferguess_k 4 hours ago

    I actually wonder how much labor costs impacts profitability. I need to look at the financial reports. But if it (worker salary) is a small part, maybe improving the 1:2 production ratio could be more useful? Is there any reason Chinese workers are producing double the number of cars per worker? Does the Chinese super factories have better automation?

  • ferguess_k 5 hours ago