Texas Sheriff Used Flock ALPR in Abortion Investigation

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19 points | by snthd 7 hours ago ago

9 comments

  • xnx 7 hours ago

    Seems like the problem is the abortion law. ALPR boogeyman is a distraction.

    • mingus88 5 hours ago

      No the problem is zero accountability

      It used to be that we had systems such as Palantir who went out of their way to design these systems with ACLs and audit review. That was their trade off to get these powerful systems approved by respecting civil liberties

      Well that seems to have been lost in today’s surveillance ecosystem. Who has access to Flock amd what are they allowed to search for? The answer seems to be any LEO for any reason

    • salawat 3 hours ago

      ...No it isn't. It's the heart of the matter. The license plate, combined with cross border surveillance data providers, is enabling dragnet surveillance and enforcement of unconscionable law.

      Stop trying to play down how tech is enabling authoritarianism. We can't have databases of beneficial ownership to facilitate investigation of white collar crime, but we can run after random women getting abortions enabled by networked cameras?

      Society can't be trusted with half the tech we've given them.

      • jaredhansen 3 hours ago

        >The license plate, combined with cross border surveillance data providers, is enabling dragnet surveillance and enforcement of unconscionable law. [snip] Stop trying to play down how tech is enabling authoritarianism.

        Yes, that's the whole point of tech used by law enforcement: to enable the enforcement of law. If we don't like the law (and I don't), we should change it!

        But focusing on the ALPR here is just silly, as a quick glance of this partial list of other technologies used by law enforcement officers in the course of enforcing the law will show: * cars * guns * phones * handcuffs * computers * the internet * notebook and pen

        All of these can be used to "enable authoritarianism", and indeed, any authoritarian regime would be hard pressed to run without them. Some of them are more important than others, and ALPRs are definitely a major improvement in the "who is going where" part of law enforcement -- but the problem is the bad law, not the enforcement thereof.

        Your argument reduces to "some laws are bad, so we should have weak enforcement mechanisms, because otherwise people will be unable to evade prosecution for breaking bad laws, and that is bad, because the laws are bad and therefore those who break them should not be subject to prosecution." This is not as helpful a move as it might seem, since it just sends us back to the original question, which is "ok, what laws should we have?"

        For better or worse, we have a setup in which we have one branch charged with answering that question, and another charged with enforcing whatever laws we happen to have. Trying to undermine one branch in order to compensate for the stupidity of another is unlikely to help.

  • actionfromafar 7 hours ago

    At least the sheriff was arrested, albeit for other abuse.

  • pestatije 6 hours ago

    ALPR - Automatic License Plate Recognition

  • josefritzishere 6 hours ago

    This seems like it should be illegal.