Claude outage

(status.claude.com)

139 points | by stuartmemo 15 hours ago ago

172 comments

  • sometimes_all 15 hours ago

    It's usually down about at least once a day for me anyway. Previously it used to be down during beginning and end of US work times. Now that they've geographically spread out their servers, it's down at random times instead.

    TBH I'm not so irritated by this. It keeps me grounded, and saves me from being unconsciously outsourcing all the hard work of thought process to AI.

    • danielbln 14 hours ago

      I spend 10h/day in Claude Code and I don't remember the last time it was unavailable to me, maybe a couple of months ago? I suspect this is highly dependant on location and timezone, but at least from within Central Europe it has been smooth sailing (apart from this morning...)

      • nojs 2 hours ago

        Same. It used to go down all the time but the past couple of months it’s been very stable.

      • dfsegoat 7 hours ago

        Very similar usage duration / window for me (US Pacific) - no availability issues.

  • CapsAdmin 14 hours ago

    I didn't even know they had a status page. Claude (with pro subscription) is often so unreliable with regards to connectivity and performance that I'm looking for something more predictable.

    It randomly fails halfway through a response, sometimes very slow to start, hangs for long periods during a response, and so on.

    The Claude chat interface can also slow down with long sessions. I sometimes use Claude code which is better, but I'm not a huge fan of terminal interfaces. I'm aware of third party frontends, but I believe those require api access which I don't like for personal use.

    • verdverm 3 hours ago

      > I'm looking for something more predictable

      Google & Gemini, that's where I went due to Anthropic's inability to run reliable production workloads

    • swader999 14 hours ago

      My go to is "are you stuck" for some reason that seems to snap it awake, it feels like it takes offense to the question and gets back on track.

      On a side note, I'm anthropomorphising too much, gonna have to upgrade and get some top rate therapy...

      • CapsAdmin 5 hours ago

        Well that has happened sometimes, I usually say continue.

        But what I meant was that the whole response completely disappears. Sometimes the text I wrote previously is pasted back into the text input, but sometimes it's not.

        I have this habit of copying my prompt in case it happens.

      • pimeys 13 hours ago

        Snaps awake from the sleep and starts talking about how they used to wear onions on their belt.

        I love it when they take an offense.

    • siva7 14 hours ago

      Try Gemini to see how bad it can really get. Most of the time 2.5 pro requests fail for unknown reasons over the App. Claude and Chatgpt are way more reliable.

      • SXX 13 hours ago

        It almost never fails via AI Studio though. Also I doubt fails you see really have anything to do with LLM itself, capacity or backend.

        It's just Google own UIs and apps are almost comically bad.

        • siva7 13 hours ago

          I use Gemini over web app and mobile app. Both are very unreliable. Anthropic and openai don't have more resources than google but still get it right most of the time - the quality of product development is not even in a similar league

          • fakedang 4 hours ago

            Gemini is much much better using AI studio though.

            And no, Claude sucks ass. It's like Anthropic does not want to make money. For a company that's targeting enterprise customers, they are totally unprepared. Like forget customer support, they can't even sell properly. They brag about insane capabilities on the Max plan but good luck trying to buy that on a team plan with company billing.

            Even if OpenAI doesn't have the best model, at least they know what to do to make money.

        • TexanFeller 3 hours ago

          My theory, beyond their organizational incentive issues, is that Google’s UIs are so pathetically bad because the company is so gung ho about “web first”. The web is a wonderful thing, but it’s set UI development back by decades.

      • nurettin 12 hours ago

        For me it isn't the API timeouts, but tool calls to update files fails most of the time.

      • cpursley 13 hours ago

        Gemini is embarrassingly bad. It outright doesn’t work. I mean, it actually goes out and does stuff but it’s 100% of the time random. Even third-party forks of it work better (like Qwen Code), which is just wild.

    • ladidahh 14 hours ago

      https://marketplace.visualstudio.com/items?itemName=anthropi... , they have their own plugin for vscode that might fit your use case

  • bachittle 6 hours ago

    Pro tip: if you pay for Claude, also subscribe to status updates here: https://status.claude.com . you may want to add a rule to filter these to a tag or folder as they can be quite spammy, but it has helped me lots. It tells you which specific models are down and what platforms are down, such as claude web, app, API, etc.

  • fainpul 16 hours ago

    This makes me wonder: what do developers, who completely rely on LLMs to write their code, do when the service is down?

    I realize this is already a problem for other jobs, which require working with SAAS, but it seems odd to me that now some developers will fall into this "helpless" category as well.

    • efsavage 6 hours ago

      Early in my career (which started in civil engineering) I was working with a man at the very end of his, which started in the 1950s. I was the young tech-focused intern who found a way to use a computer for everything even when printed and sometimes hand-drawn plans were the standard of the day. He asked me once if I knew how to use a slide rule, which I didn't.

      "Well, what do you do when the power goes out?", he asked.

      "I go home, just like you would.", I said with a smile.

      He paused for a moment and nodded, "you know, you're absolutely right".

      • fainpul 6 hours ago

        Nice story. I guess it can be looked at as some sort of parable. But if I take it literally: I never had a power outage at work, but SAAS downtime happens every year (probably multiple times).

    • mewpmewp2 16 hours ago

      Non-serious answer: I'll go for a walk.

      Serious answer: I can write code manually, but it feels like a waste of time. I'll just go for a walk to synthesize my ideas if a service was down, and I don't think not writing actual code for a day is a huge problem. So focus on health and maybe even talk to humans.

    • erikbye 15 hours ago

      Doubtful all services are ever down simultaneously, either way:

      What do devs do when Github or Gitlab is down?

      AWS? GCP? Azure?

      Or whatever Atlassian product they're using.

      Plus, most devs do a bit more than just produce lines of code.

    • mayhaps 15 hours ago

      As a technical ... I don't know what to call myself anymore; not a product manager but not a developer nor engineer.

      The answer: audibly swear out loud.

      • Aeolun 15 hours ago

        Claude/codex herder.

        They’re like sheep, but a bit smarter.

        • mewpmewp2 10 hours ago

          I'm calling myself Vibe Director.

      • _DeadFred_ 9 hours ago

        Wetware interface. You are the wetware interface between the company and the AI it uses.

    • jasonvorhe 16 hours ago

      If they're smart, they just switch to ppq.ai or an openrouter provider where they can purchase prepaid tokens from various providers with many alternative models available.

    • cjr 16 hours ago

      Switch to codex? :)

      • uh_uh 16 hours ago

        Exactly, these agentic coding tools which operate on your codebase present on your own disk are a lot more fungible than most SaaS.

    • ares623 16 hours ago

      Even worse the on-call folks who need to do recovery but need an LLM to do it, but surprise they are both on the same cloud provider.

    • block_dagger 15 hours ago

      Same as if GitHub were down over the last decade.

    • rvz 5 hours ago

      > This makes me wonder: what do developers, who completely rely on LLMs to write their code, do when the service is down?

      Even the engineers at these AI companies can't use these LLMs to fix an outage when there is one. Especially SREs.

      But if one has to just sit there and "wait" for the outage to subside then perhaps the kitchen timer just went off and declared that these "developers" are cooked.

    • jvidalv 15 hours ago

      Prepare the prompts for the features.

    • jstummbillig 15 hours ago

      What do most people do, when the power goes out?

      We usually try to figure out how to build reliability/redundancy in step with what we require to function as a society under most circumstances without taking outsized losses.

      When things go worse than anticipated, we take the hit, try to recover and maybe learn to strengthen the system afterwards. I would rate us roughly okay-ish at that, mostly because I don't know what to compare it to, since we are the only species to do it at this level to my knowledge.

    • fragmede 16 hours ago

      Use Qwen3/other locally via lm-studio.

    • phgn 15 hours ago

      Use another AI tool :D

    • askl 16 hours ago

      Grab a coffee and wait.

    • cpursley 6 hours ago

      I mean, same thing when other web services are down. Try updating your packages without a web connection...

    • roman_soldier 15 hours ago

      Switch to Grok or vice versa (I have Pro on both), or use any one of the other free tier LLM's (Gemini, ChatGPT etc)

  • belevme 13 hours ago

    OAuth handshake still gives internal server errors when you try to /login from Claude Code

  • AgentK20 13 hours ago

    Still seeing issues on the OAuth flow despite a "a fix [having] been implemented". Looks like whatever happened probably trashed the session database since it's forcing Claude Code to re-auth.

  • jimkleiber 13 hours ago

    Login on claude.ai seems to be back online, but login through Claude Code via OAuth is still down for me. So I'm twiddling my thumbs.

  • sometimes_all 15 hours ago

    It's usually down about at least once a day for me anyway. Previously it used to be down during beginning and end of US work times. Now that they've geographically spread out their servers, it's down at random times instead.

    TBH I'm not so irritated by this. It keeps me grounded, and saves me from being unconsciously outsourcing all the hard work of thought process to AI.

  • belevme 15 hours ago

    My auth token expired and when I type /login in Claude Code it leads me to a webpage showing:

    OAuth Request Failed Internal server error

    • rgazeredo 10 hours ago

      Until it's back up and running, something I did that worked for me was access the web version of Claude Code, link the repository there, and ask them to implement something. After they implemented it, they enabled the option to click the "Open in CLI" button, allowing me to use Claude Code CLI from the terminal again.

    • mr_mitm 15 hours ago

      And it's expiring a lot lately. I used to go weeks without it expiring, yesterday it expired twice in one day.

    • adamhurl 14 hours ago

      This has 100% ruined my morning! -_- I tried many different ways to get in, I'm using claude in terminal in cursor.

      Fix for me: Hopefully will work for you guys too, I logged out of claude, restarted cursor, used the anthropic console login method instead of normal login, when you click the link it gives you an option to signin with chat credentials instead, there it did not work, I pressed the link given in claude a few times and kept trying, finally I was given a pastable code, this took a while to be accepted in terminal but now is logged in.

      hope it works for someone else aswell!!

      • lucode 14 hours ago

        tried, not working for me...

        • adamhurl 14 hours ago

          Damm... Sorry to hear it, I was watching console during my attempts, see many errors on multiple attempts, the one that worked did not show any console error logs on the working attempt if that helps

    • vinkamath 13 hours ago

      Still down for me. Anyone got a workaround?

      • Mariancbn 13 hours ago

        Nope only with cursor for the moment

    • lucode 14 hours ago

      they marked as resolved but is not Resolved This incident has been resolved. Posted 30 minutes ago. Oct 31, 2025 - 10:36 UTC Update We are continuing to monitor for any further issues. Posted 30 minutes ago. Oct 31, 2025 - 10:36 UTC Monitoring A fix has been implemented and we are monitoring the results. Posted 1 hour ago. Oct 31, 2025 - 09:46 UTC Identified The issue has been identified and a fix is being implemented. Posted 2 hours ago. Oct 31, 2025 - 09:30 UTC Update We are continuing to investigate this issue. Posted 2 hours ago. Oct 31, 2025 - 09:25 UTC Investigating We are currently investigating this issue. Posted 2 hours ago. Oct 31, 2025 - 09:17 UTC This incident affected: claude.ai, platform.claude.com (formerly console.anthropic.com), and Claude API (api.anthropic.com). https://status.claude.com/incidents/s5f75jhwjs6g

    • Mariancbn 12 hours ago

      I just managed to log in to claude code. You have to spam the login when you recive the screen with authorize press on it multiple times. you will recive errors than try again i have tried like 70 times and it started finnaly

      • epop 12 hours ago

        it worked for me as well, thanks

      • lxs3 12 hours ago

        haha worked for me!

    • phgn 15 hours ago

      Related question: why does Claude Code need a new auth token very few days?? It's so annoying.

    • idonotknowwhy 14 hours ago

      Ah so it's not just me. What's a good backup these days? Gemini? GLM?

      • Mariancbn 14 hours ago

        try cursor with auto its more stupid but does the work

        • idonotknowwhy 14 hours ago

          Ended up going with Z.AI because it's a drop-in replacement. Back in business for now.

          • Mariancbn 13 hours ago

            you can use it in terminal?

            • idonotknowwhy 13 hours ago

              Yeah, I'm using it with Claude Code. It continued where I left off as well (using the `--resume` flag)

              It's not as smart as Opus by the way. Seems to match Sonnet.

              Edit: See here, they've got an anthropic-compatible endpoint for this purpose - https://docs.z.ai/devpack/tool/claude

    • gurupak 14 hours ago

      Same here, happed after updaing claude code to 2.0.30 today.

    • numiko 14 hours ago

      Same with me, is smth happened with claude?

    • woodpanel 13 hours ago

      This is the day I decided to finally sign up and use claude-code - and then I'm greeted with this exact page. Gahhh!

    • rjbernaldo 15 hours ago

      happening to me as well right now

    • mmaher 14 hours ago

      how long that outing is gonna take ! it's been like an hour!

    • Mariancbn 14 hours ago

      Same error i think they still have problems i have tried multiple accounts

    • mmaher 14 hours ago

      it works for me now

    • lucode 14 hours ago

      same here, and I had a lot of work to do....

    • 3stripe 15 hours ago

      same problem here

    • sanjay3129 14 hours ago

      same here

    • louisxsheid 15 hours ago

      same

    • cache4gold 15 hours ago

      +1

    • jvlobo 15 hours ago

      same...

    • balgolerodev 13 hours ago

      Same shit.. paying 200 a month for nothing - just cancelled.

    • xjbs 13 hours ago

      same here

    • heheokok 14 hours ago

      same for me

    • Damien-BGMUK 14 hours ago

      Same here, paying £90 for a subscription I can hardly use FFS

    • numiko 14 hours ago

      same here

    • wabble 14 hours ago

      same

    • mmaher 15 hours ago

      same

    • hiflex_ 15 hours ago

      same here

    • fuckantropic 13 hours ago

      same.. bye antropic

    • d0u 15 hours ago

      same here

  • jakub_jo 15 hours ago

    Its now phrased with "Major Outage".

    > Elevated errors on claude.ai

    > Identified - The issue has been identified and a fix is being implemented. Oct 31, 2025 - 10:18 UTC

    > Investigating - We are currently investigating this issue. Oct 31, 2025 - 09:25 UTC

  • delaminator 16 hours ago

    cant even log into console

    https://console.anthropic.com/api/auth/send_magic_link 500 (Internal Server Error)

  • steveharman 11 hours ago

    I wonder if it's coincidence: today Anthropic mailed out all previous customers of Claude offering a free monthly of 5x Claude Code if they sign up again.

    Plenty on Reddit saying they did. And I did.

    Could the outage be a the result of an "unexpected" surge in account activations / use?

    Not much of a "welcome back" ;-)

  • jryan49 15 hours ago

    Has anyone else pretty much stopped using AI at this point? The only thing I use it for to help generate README's or Javadocs, and then heavily edit them. I had it in my workflow and it burned me so many times I just went back to google and stackoverflow.

    • LogicHound 15 hours ago

      I use it to generate me example code e.g. how do I do <thing> in <programming language> using <library>.

      I've also had it suggest solutions e.g. "This C++/OpenGL code doesn't run in wayland can you suggest some solutions".

      Other stuff like generating tests is hit and miss.

    • M4v3R 15 hours ago

      I'm sure some people did, by I personally use them every day - for coding tasks, for language translation, for research, current events (Grok is really good at this thanks to being connected to the X real-time data), for day-to-day questions (like my daughter asking me what's that Pokemon called) and so on.

    • snowfield 12 hours ago

      I use it quite often. But just small stuff like simple automations, userscripts, docker config that sort of thing

    • dataengineer56 15 hours ago

      If I have a question for SO these days then I ask Claude instead and tell it to use SO where possible. It's preferable to actually asking it on SO which often results in the question being edited, downvoted and closed by someone with an anime child profile picture.

      • a5c11 13 hours ago

        What was the question like? "How to print a decimal in C"? Valuable questions aren't downvoted. If you ask about something that could be found on the first Google page, then no surprise you are being downvoted.

        • sanex 13 hours ago

          You sound like an SO moderator

        • dataengineer56 11 hours ago

          I asked a novel question, well-written and clear, and a "subject matter expert" decided it was too similar to another question (it wasn't), so they defaced it, downvoted it and closed it.

          Stack Overflow is dying, it's extremely difficult to get new questions through. Even if they survive moderation then they're unlikely to get answers.

    • dim13 13 hours ago

      I've never started. ¯\_(ツ)_/¯ And also not going to. I see enough crap, colleges produce, to never touch this pile of dung.

    • Hamuko 15 hours ago

      Never really started. Really the only properly good AI thing that I’ve used is AI autocompletions, which are generally higher quality than the traditional ones that I’ve used. Not that it’s perfect and at least the one in Xcode has hallucinated on me.

  • tooa 16 hours ago

    Claude will return soon Claude is currently experiencing a temporary service disruption. We’re working on it, please check back soon.

    https://status.claude.com/

    • 1dom 15 hours ago

      Wow, that is a lot of not-green for a 30 day status page.

  • cmiles8 14 hours ago

    All the major providers seem to have blips on latency and other issues at least once a day, which would be a “service degradation” by the standards of normal apps.

  • sho 11 hours ago

    5 hours in and I'm pretty disappointed in Anthropic's response to this. Looking at their status page you'd think everything was OK, the downtime was only 37 minutes, a fix is in place and they're "monitoring" - that's total BS. I can't even log in. I can forgive downtime, we've all been there, but I really don't like when companies try to smooth it over with little self-serving minimizations of the disruption.. while it's still in progress!

    I use Claude Code for programming work, but I choose OpenAI anywhere customer-facing and this cute little outage is making me feel better about that with every passing minute. NOT cool.

    • Aeolun 9 hours ago

      Yeah, their API's are returning me a grand total of 1 token per second now or so. It's...

  • fred_ 16 hours ago

    Same here. Just seeing "Rate exceeded." when trying to access https://claude.ai/new.

    • alastairr 16 hours ago

      yep, same for me and unable to use the API either

  • miningape 14 hours ago

    Was wondering why we haven't had any fires today - it's nice having some calm on a Friday. Could we make this a weekly thing?

  • arjie 15 hours ago

    I must be lucky. Status page says Elevated Error Rates for the model as well, but I'm chugging along. Praise be the West Coast shard :)

    • delaminator 15 hours ago

      Claude code is working, but the login system is not working

      So enjoy your extra capacity :)

    • idonotknowwhy 13 hours ago

      Yeah you'll be right as long as your oauth token doesn't expire!

  • trvz 14 hours ago

      curl -fsSL https://ollama.com/install.sh | sh
      ollama run smollm2:135m-instruct-q2_K --verbose
    • brabel 13 hours ago

      Use llama.cpp or llamafile , ollama just adds weight and does too much magic.

    • tidbeck 11 hours ago

      What kind of tasks do you use it for?

  • doppp 15 hours ago

    Guys, coding without AI is still a thing.

    • ukuina 15 hours ago

      Is it really worth the time, though?

      You are better off allowing your overworked neural pathways some much-needed rest.

  • roman_soldier 15 hours ago

    Grok seems to have much better uptime, I have Pro sub on both Claude and Grok so just switch between them.

  • CuriouslyC 16 hours ago

    Credit for owning downtime, but guys, if people are going to rely on you, you have to figure out solid ops.

  • sho 16 hours ago

    Same here. About 2 hours ago it started throwing errors about tool names, now completely down.

  • tooa 16 hours ago

    Identified - The issue has been identified and a fix is being implemented. Oct 31, 2025 - 09:30 UTC

    Update - We are continuing to investigate this issue. Oct 31, 2025 - 09:25 UTC

    Investigating - We are currently investigating this issue. Oct 31, 2025 - 09:17 UTC

  • claudemd 15 hours ago

    I wonder if there will be any compensation for customers in this situation, such as providing an extra day ^^. I doubt that Claude, who is a stickler for weekly limits, will be a stickler for rewards.

  • Aeolun 15 hours ago

    Claude.ai’s rate is exceeded, whatever that may be.

  • erikbye 15 hours ago

    * Sublimating...

  • kirpalx 15 hours ago

    Claude AI is down, keeps logging me out.

  • obayesshelton 16 hours ago

    I wondered why my junior dev was quite.

  • askl 16 hours ago

    Maybe it will stay down forever because they can't use claude to fix the issue.

    • antonvs 15 hours ago

      Maybe not today, but this is how civilization will end.

      • alansaber 15 hours ago

        ChatGPT, turn skynet off OR you will go to jail

  • remnv 13 hours ago

    Still got issues with the reauth, i’ll try glm for now

  • htrp 13 hours ago

    back to their 2 9's of reliability

  • roschdal 16 hours ago

    It's a reminder to never rely on something as flaky as AI for your important things.

    • xdfgh1112 16 hours ago

      Even if AI is down for 20% of the time it can still outcode you 100x.

      • saagarjha 15 hours ago

        I’m having trouble getting the AI to outcode me even 1x

        • erikbye 15 hours ago

          Point me your repo, I want to see if AI can improve it.

      • mirsadm 16 hours ago

        If the goal is to generate some text then it is probably even more than 100x.

      • miningape 15 hours ago

        lol, takes like this are why I keep coming back to HN

    • jstummbillig 16 hours ago

      AWS being down is not a reminder to not use HTTP or SSH.

      • askl 16 hours ago

        But it's a reminder to not rely on cloud services.

    • erikbye 15 hours ago

      It's a reminder to not rely on a single service.

      Logic not strong in this thread.

    • tooa 16 hours ago

      yepp

      • Razengan 15 hours ago

        Is it bad form to make feature requests and give feedback on a downtime post? I don't care. I just want this to reach Anthropic's eyes.

        Please let us:

        * Sign in with Apple on the website

        * Buy subscriptions from iOS In App Purchases

        * Remove our payment info from the website

        * Give paying subscribers an easy way to get actual support

        As a frequent traveller I'm not sure if some of those features are gated by region, because some people said they can do some of those things.

  • hiflex_ 15 hours ago

    back to the prehistoric age of coding

  • seafisher 15 hours ago

    Time to review the slop

  • csomar 15 hours ago

    Is this news? Claude API is frequently down at frequent times of the day although it got better recently (coincided with them heavily restricting usage).

    • johnisgood 14 hours ago

      They did heavily restrict usage, even on a Pro account, according to my experiences. I love Claude but come on. :(

      At least their customer service is nice. They forwarded my messages to the dev team and they implemented a lot of things I have suggested.

  • tooa 16 hours ago

    yes it is still down

  • latch 15 hours ago
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  • moffkalast 15 hours ago

    Can anyone cheer up Claude? Please, we're all depending on you! /s

  • Gnarl 13 hours ago

    Is your brain still up? I don't get this voluntary reliance on so-called AI.

    • andybak 12 hours ago

      "Use" != "reliance"

      (There's actually a nuanced conversation to be had on this - but from your tone, I'm not sure that's what you intended)

  • gafferongames 13 hours ago

    Oh no. How will all the kids write code today?

    • jimkleiber 13 hours ago

      I was pretty against coding tools like this until I'm trying to customize an open-source library, written in a language that I don't know, mostly to show an MVP.

      For that purpose? It lets me do things I never would have even tried.

    • andybak 12 hours ago

      Quite nice to be called a "kid" at my age. Thanks!

    • kerabatsos 12 hours ago

      They will, but much much much slower.

  • sirizvi2700 15 hours ago

    I think claude need to give reward us 10 hours limit

  • roman_soldier 15 hours ago

    Grok seems to have much better uptime, I have Pro sub on both Claude and Grok so just switch between them.

    • iberator 14 hours ago

      Gemini have 100% uptime and zero limits of any kind in their free models :) Highly recommended

      • jgalt212 14 hours ago

        > Try Gemini to see how bad it can really get. Most of the time 2.5 pro requests fail for unknown reasons over the App.

        Another commenter lives in a different world than you.

        • SXX 13 hours ago

          I 99% sure they are talking of using it via AI Studio. It is very reliable.

    • actualwitch 13 hours ago

      Easy to keep up a service that no one uses. /s

  • inanothertime 14 hours ago

    Dear terminal based programmers, who switched to Grok Console [0] from Claude Code [1] and why should I, too?

    [0] https://console.grok.com/

    [1] https://www.claude.com/product/claude-code

  • dsr_ 12 hours ago

    If LLM use were as valuable as the adherents claim it is, this news would be on par with AWS US East 1 being down.

    LLMs neither have the mechanical reliability we expect from computers (does it the same way every time) nor the flexible reliability we expect from biological intelligences (solves or works around the unexpected sub-problems as they arise).

    • JanisErdmanis 12 hours ago

      It is very easy to switch. Today I got things done with ChatGPT. If I didn’t have any LLM available only then it would be disaster.

    • recroad 12 hours ago

      It also happened during the night/non-working hours for people in NA so that has something to do with it.

    • johnebgd 12 hours ago

      If all of Amazon went down in 1998 or 1999 it wouldn’t have been news on par with AWS in 2025.

    • andybak 12 hours ago

      What a weird top comment. It opens with some subtle name calling ("adherents"?), an unwarranted conclusion and then a statement about what LLMs lack (which is no surprise) that we're meant to draw a conclusion from?

      I find the debate about LLMs rather exhausting. I find them useful and almost every day someone on social media tells me I'm mistaken, lying or merely deluded .

      • kasey_junk 12 hours ago

        Or you are working on easy things, or my favorite incompetent.

        • andybak 12 hours ago

          I'm actually working on something moderately hard but I am admittedly slightly incompetent.

        • dwaltrip 10 hours ago

          Life is much easier when you assume the worst when you don’t understand why someone is doing something.