10 comments

  • Terr_ 14 hours ago

    We must (socially) assume all arrests are US citizens by default, and it is up to the Florida/federal government to assert otherwise on an individual basis.

    • heavyset_go 14 hours ago

      This is why due process is so important, and why it's terrifying that it's being hand-waved away.

      If you had a problem with Bush & Obama suspending habeas corpus, this should be setting off alarm bells for you if, for whatever reason, recent events haven't.

    • tartarus4o 14 hours ago

      What you describe is the principle of presumption of innocence. Shame it seems to be a lost concept in the land of the free nowadays.

      • flowerthoughts 8 hours ago

        You could argue that presuming you're an alien implies that rights given by law don't necessarily apply to you. It's far worse than being presumed guilty.

      • Terr_ 11 hours ago

        I feel it goes a bit beyond that, because at this point it's also the presumption that those governments are operating recklessly and with knowing dishonestly.

  • RickJWagner 11 hours ago

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    • bryanlarsen 10 hours ago

      That's not true, there was massive coverage of that sort of thing during the Obama administration. There's a reason DACA was a major portion of Obama's efforts.

      • aaomidi 6 hours ago

        And also, many actual progressives hate Obama too for many of these anti democratic decisions.

        • RickJWagner an hour ago

          I find this a good response.

          If a person faults Trump equally with Obama, I believe they are acting logically.

          If the person considers Obama a saint and Trump a demon, then I have to wonder why.

          • bryanlarsen 24 minutes ago

            "equally" is highly suspect. Just like most presidents on both the R & D sides, Obama made a bunch of mistakes and was no saint. Trump cannot be considered normal or lumped together with "most presidents".